Qantas plane makes emergency landing at SYD

ShelleyB

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Just reported on The Guardian - Qantas QF520 makes emergency landing at SYD with suspected engine failure. From "just in" reporting sounds like it failed on take off.
 
They called a Pan Pan Pan climbing out due engine failure. ATC advised parts over the runway.

About 30 degrees in temp, blowing 15 knots so certainly good conditions for a grass fire.

Certainly is one the older 737s. A321s can’t come soon enough.
 
SMH reporting it as an 'explosion' 🙄, which I guess is technically what happened, but reporting it as an engine failure isn't going to get clicks like explosion...

It certainly doesn't help anyone to make it sound more dramatic. Seems quite dramatic enough already.
 
Scoot didn’t hang around long, abandoned the approach and went to Melbourne, must be tight on gas.
 
@AviatorInsight it was said by a couple of observers (including one on board ) that after the failure, the aircraft markedly didn’t climb very much, certainly not like the usual climb. They expressed surprise, especially as the aircraft headed over Sydney city.

I guess restricted climb makes sense, but if there observers were correct, is that what you would expect the performance of the aircraft to be in this circumstance?
 
They called a Pan Pan Pan climbing out due engine failure. ATC advised parts over the runway.

About 30 degrees in temp, blowing 15 knots so certainly good conditions for a grass fire.

Certainly is one the older 737s. A321s can’t come soon enough.
I’m struggling to find the tapes if anyone has them
I don't know that the likelihood of an engine failure is all that much lower with a new aircraft, or even a new engine. It's interesting that it has thrown bits on to the grass.
I feel like I’ve read a stat somewhere that engine failures are in fact more likely with a new engine. Lemme see if I can find it
 
Would be interesting to know if the burning debris on the runway was indeed an uncontained failure of the engine?
 
Would be interesting to know if the burning debris on the runway was indeed an uncontained failure of the engine?
Qantas are saying it was a contained engine failure according to engineers, the fire could of been the result of fod being ejected after ingestion.
 
@AviatorInsight it was said by a couple of observers (including one on board ) that after the failure, the aircraft markedly didn’t climb very much, certainly not like the usual climb. They expressed surprise, especially as the aircraft headed over Sydney city.

I guess restricted climb makes sense, but if there observers were correct, is that what you would expect the performance of the aircraft to be in this circumstance?
Well, you've just taken away half of the power, so it stands to reason that it won't climb all that well.

You don't necessarily push the power on the remaining engine to the stops, as that will make it harder to control. But, even if you did, you'd almost certainly still be about 30% down on the overall power that you would have been getting from a derated take off. The normal departure procedure for that runway, has aircraft turning hard right at about 500'. In this case he's continue straight ahead, which is the engine out procedure that I remember from way back on the 767. Obstacles will have been accounted for in the planning.
Qantas are saying it was a contained engine failure according to engineers, the fire could of been the result of fod being ejected after ingestion.
Contained doesn't mean that it didn't throw bits of metal, only that they came out of the exhaust.
 
We missed all the fun @SYD today...our flight left at 0913am. :)

...but we saw AJ and his husband enter the Qf F lounge as we were leaving so his travel plans may have been delayed ;)
 
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If you want to see what a one engine takeoff looks like, see here. Certainly the degraded climb performance is quite evident.

 
I was taxiing down Charlie to 34L and something caught my eye on the 737 that just didn’t seem right. They looked much slower and a lot lower than normal. I noticed a bit of smoke coming from the runway but couldn’t quite see and that it was either coming from Foreshore Dr or a boat was on fire.

Listening in to the tower, they had a severely damaged engine at V1 (the go/no go speed) with debris all over 34R and subsequently the grass on the right caught fire.

They did an overweight landing and came back on 34L.

Great job by those pilots.
 

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