QANTAS putting A330s back on Sydney-Denpasar route

[AIRwin]

Especially with SYD-HKG and MEL-HKG relaunching in next few months..

SYD-PVG and MEL-HND as well:

https://www.qantas.com/au/en/qantas-experience/international-flight-network.html?int_cam=au%3Anetwork-and-partner-airlines%3Aarticle%3Ainternational-network-map%3Aen%3Ann

 

[sudoer]

SYD-PVG and MEL-HND as well:

https://www.qantas.com/au/en/qantas-experience/international-flight-network.html?int_cam=au%3Anetwork-and-partner-airlines%3Aarticle%3Ainternational-network-map%3Aen%3Ann

Has PVG had a date set?

 

[AIRwin]

Has PVG had a date set?

"Coming in 2023, subject to borders"

 

[Mattg]

Well, summer's over and the SYD-DPS route is now back to a 737-800. *sigh*

 

[Saab34]

I don't think it matters if its summer or winter, the demand for Bali is still heavy regardless what month it is, A330 could do year round twice a day. Are the A330's needed elsewhere?

 

[Mattg]

I don't think it matters if its summer or winter, the demand for Bali is still heavy regardless what month it is, A330 could do year round twice a day. Are the A330's needed elsewhere?

Could be that the A330s are needed elsewhere, OR that the capacity allocation for Indonesia is needed elsewhere, perhaps?

 

[AIRwin]

Could be that the A330s are needed elsewhere, OR that the capacity allocation for Indonesia is needed elsewhere, perhaps?

MEL-CGK?

 

[Saab34]

I recall they cancelled Perth to Jakarta, also seeing a whole heap of Jetstar A321s on Bali from both Melbourne and Sydney. Looks like all the capacity is going Melbourne to Jakarta.

 

[jase05]

Interestingly GA have announced they are are ramping up their wide body services to DPS and CGK.
From April 1st
MEL-DPS 2x weekly
MEL-CGK 3x weekly
SYD-DPS 3x weekly
SYD-CGK 3x weekly

Then From July 3rd
MEL-DPS 3x weekly
MEL-CGK 4x weekly
SYD-DPS 4x weekly
SYD-CGK 4x weekly

Great to have some much needed competition on those routes

 

[Mattg]

Qantas' SYD-DPS route is going back to a daily Airbus A330 service from October.

 

[Saab34]

I assume the seats allocation are coming from the downgraded Jetstar 787 to A321 seat reduction. I can’t see any other Bali flight that has been cancelled aside the Jetstar DRW-DPS on a temporary basis.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Qantas' SYD-DPS route is going back to a daily Airbus A330 service from October.

best. news. ever!!

soooo much better than the 737

 

[sudoer]

I assume the seats allocation are coming from the downgraded Jetstar 787 to A321 seat reduction. I can’t see any other Bali flight that has been cancelled aside the Jetstar DRW-DPS on a temporary basis.

Is there a government-imposed seat allocation on flights into DPS? SYD-DPS has been operated by a A330 previously, alongside the JQ 787 and QF 737 from MEL.

I guess QF is now flying MEL-CGK though, so there could be a quota on seats into any port in Indonesia?

 

[HS-TQE]

Is there a government-imposed seat allocation on flights into DPS? SYD-DPS has been operated by a A330 previously, alongside the JQ 787 and QF 737 from MEL.

I guess QF is now flying MEL-CGK though, so there could be a quota on seats into any port in Indonesia?

Aus-Indonesia bilateral is based on seat caps allocated on each carrier from the 'Big 4' Australian cities (Inc AVV as part of MEL) into any Indonesian port. QF/JQ share the same allocated seat cap per the bilateral. Flights from any other port is unlimited, hence JQ and VA flies from ADL, OOL, CNS, etc.

 

[Qantas747]

Qantas' SYD-DPS route is going back to a daily Airbus A330 service from October.

So happy to hear this again!

This is the reason I booked my flight for December through Sydney, even though both SYD and MEL were down as the 737, and the MEL routing is consistently cheaper and provides more points/SCs. I've been caught out before and stuck with a MEL 737 (including one on which the inflight entertainment and power weren't working) when SYD has been upgraded later to an A330... not worth it!

 

[justinbrett]

Is there a government-imposed seat allocation on flights into DPS? SYD-DPS has been operated by a A330 previously, alongside the JQ 787 and QF 737 from MEL.

I guess QF is now flying MEL-CGK though, so there could be a quota on seats into any port in Indonesia?

Yes, 25,000 seats from the big 4 + AVV.

There's no seats available, but another 2500 available for the "QR special" (originating/operating via another city).

There is no distinction on the Indonesian end as to what airports are served (Eg DPS/CGK etc).

 

[exceladdict]

Qantas' SYD-DPS route is going back to a daily Airbus A330 service from October.

Where are the 330s coming from?

 

[Saab34]

Current Bali Bilateral Allocation November:

QF
MEL-CGK 813
SYD-CGK 1897
MEL-DPS 1218
SYD-DPS 1218

JQ
MEL-DPS 4897
SYD-DPS 3557
PER-DPS 3906
BNE-DPS 2345

Total: 19851 (149 seats available)

Only 530 more seats need to be freed up to get the A332 on the route. Spillover rules will enable a A333 if required for whatever reason assume engineering.

Putting a 321N on the BNE-DPS will get the seats, or cutting the combined remaining 10 weekly MEL-SYD/DPS 788s to 5 weekly and subbing those 5 with a 321N. However one would assume the seats would come from the Sydney market considering that is where the seats are going in an effort to grow margin, so I would take a punt and say the JQ 788s will be dropped and subbed to a 321, and one service cancelled.

 

[Steve994]

I would love for the A330 to remain permanently on the DPS routes. Take them off CNS and DRW.

Just about everyone loves the A330. But Qantas don't really care and are quite happy to replace them with narrow bodies. Perth - Brisbane all 737's now, as are an increasing number of flights Perth-Sydney and Perth-Melbourne. And Qantas have converted a couple of their A330's to freighters. Says it all really.

 

[RooFlyer]

Qantas' SYD-DPS route is going back to a daily Airbus A330 service from October.

Ahem. I'll take credit for this

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