Qantas rolls out Classic Plus Flight Rewards

[I love to travel]

Beginning of October - this is the 6/10:View attachment 377922

I don't think the calender is working for flights originating outside of Australia. But yes I could see that when I went in. Sadly nothing available in July or August to the US in J for CR

 

[shannan94]

Availability is already dwindling from what I saw at 6.45am this morning. I suspect Vanessa Hudson will stand up at 11am (followed by a bulk email to members) announcing lots of classic rewards have been released along with the changes which may be all but unavailable by then.

 

[ozflier]

I am looking at clearing out my points for a OWA in March 2025 .
Can't find any J CR s that far ahead that is part of the "dump".
Has anyone?

 

[I love to travel]

I am looking at clearing out my points for a OWA in March 2025 .
Can't find any J CR s that far ahead that is part of the "dump".
Has anyone?

The dump seems to have been very selective and not widespread

 

[Pushka]

The dump seems to have been very selective and not widespread

I'm looking at Japan next year. For the selected month, just one day showed +. Plenty of classic though. Hope that sticks.

 

[Pom-DownUnder]

interesting that is obviously ranked around some sort of demand pricing and movable rather than fixed alternative option, points wise.

 

[CaptainCurtis]

Sounds like Points club members will receive status credits

 

[SYD]

So I just did some random searches and what was curious was SYD-CHC (return) 2x J:

CR 166,000 pts + $514 (the pts being 41,500 pp each way)

CR+ 128,400 pts + $514 (being 32,100 pts pp each way).

Now granted, there’s a NZ sale on now but there does appear to be some value in CR+.

 

[I love to travel]

Well there it is.

https://www.qantas.com/au/en/frequent-flyer/use-points/classic-plus-flight-rewards.html?int_cam=au:qf_home:qf001:classicpluslaunch_april2024:en:ff

No ASX announcement. So clearly not a profit downgrade!!!

 

[MEL_Traveller]

So… sell points to banks and businesses at 1c each. Pax now redeeming at 1c each. ‘Profit’ comes for the fees and charges?

 

[Airbumps]

Sounds like Points club members will receive status credits

You would hope so, given they do for CR bookings but you never can tell with QF. Can I just confirm where you read/saw that? I presume it would be at the same rate as CR

 

[CaptainCurtis]

You would hope so, given they do for CR bookings but you never can tell with QF. Can I just confirm where you read/saw that? I presume it would be at the same rate as CR

In the fare characteristics section - 'no points or status credit earn (except for Points club members)'.

 

[melbourne rebel]

So I just did some random searches and what was curious was SYD-CHC (return) 2x J:

CR 166,000 pts + $514 (the pts being 41,500 pp each way)

CR+ 128,400 pts + $514 (being 32,100 pts pp each way).

Now granted, there’s a NZ sale on now but there does appear to be some value in CR+.

There were a large number of error (mistake fares) in there. MEL-JFKbooked @ 183,000 CR+ in J for 5 PAX.

Error has been fixed now. But too late!!!!!!

 

[logicallysynced]

Domestic routes to be added by end of year according to the FAQ, unless connected to an international route.

 

[RichardMEL]

interesting that is obviously ranked around some sort of demand pricing and movable rather than fixed alternative option, points wise.

This was part of the leaked info - that they are linked to revenue fares in the market - so in that sense dynamic, but at a fixed rate (ie 1.5c/point for premium seats)

 

[SYD]

Early thoughts:
- Classic+ appears to be available for all flights.

I was trying to compare another route with some CR availability but can’t get it to show CR+ (SYD-YVR)….

- Taxes and fees are high ($1600 for a return J ticket SYD-LHR)

Exactly the same on a return booking - from what I could see.

- Points prices will be lower for return flights as cash prices are lower for return flights

This will be a key thing to consider v CR. With the exception of routes that price ok as one way fares (eg Domestic and TT).

 

[encryptededdy]

Can CR and CR+ be mixed on the same international itinerary? (CR out, CR+ back for instance). Will this give the cheaper "return" pricing for CR+?

I assume "under the hood" booking a CR+ will still book you into a reward (X, Z, U, P) fare code.

I also wonder if you can freely change between CR and CR+ flights by paying the 5000pt change fee.

 

[chrispy3276]

ASX announcement is out.

According to the statement when fully rolled out, they expect 20 million new seats to be available throughout the year. Initial Classic+ seats are International only, but Domestic will be available by the end of the year.

The "investment" is expected to cost QF up to $125m in total to initially implement; will impact growth of QFF profitability this financial year but expect to see growth returning to normal (10%+ YOY) from FY25 onwards.

Announcement (and slides): https://cdn-api.markitdigital.com/apiman-gateway/ASX/asx-research/1.0/file/2924-02792837-2A1516303

 

[I love to travel]

ASX announcement is out.

According to the statement when fully rolled out, they expect 20 million new seats to be available throughout the year. Initial Classic+ seats are International only, but Domestic will be available by the end of the year.

The "investment" is expected to cost QF up to $125m in total to initially implement; will impact growth of QFF profitability this financial year but expect to see growth returning to normal (10%+ YOY) from FY25 onwards.

Announcement (and slides): https://cdn-api.markitdigital.com/apiman-gateway/ASX/asx-research/1.0/file/2924-02792837-2A1516303

So in other words from FY 25 onwards CR disappear

 

[chrispy3276]

Looks like Classic+ Rewards will also potentially be upgradable too across all classes including J to F - functionality to be made available from May.

(Edited post to clarify info)