Awesom Andy
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I think the bigger problem here is that, all AU based airline groups that operate international flights are losing money.
Well clearly this management team has failed to deliver.So many people angry at Qantas and Alan Joyce (who is merely the face in front of a large management team making these decisions) but do you seriously think that Virgin Australia would come in and start flying to Europe from Adelaide ?
I am not a good example and I do not quite live in SYD full time. Yet I have no issue connecting via every other capital city except for ADL as I did not get a chance before QF pulled the plug.Easy to say when one lives there.
The current QANTAS special fares to SYD-LHR at the moment are codeshares on Emirates only. Does that mean QF1 is always full so no seats available for specials or does it mean they want to encourage people to fly codeshare as it makes them more money and the way of the future.
no it's not that easy since 21,000,000 or more of us live over here
Population clockWith the figure of 21,000,000 I presume you mean the whole of Australia, not sure what else you mean though.
I would like to think so, as well, but what is in it for the likes of CX and MH to have a closer relationship with Qantas?
Taking MEL as an example (because I'm most familiar with it) - CX has 3 flights per day, and QF have one. Which leaves 2 hours after the morning CX flight. MH, likewise, has 3 flights to KUL and QF has none (!)
Why should CX or MH feed QF into Australia when they are capable of doing it themselves and keep more of the profits? The only advantage that QF has is for traffic destined for cities outside SYD, MEL, BNE, CNS, ADL and PER. Of which I don't think there is much.
Why should CX or MH feed QF into Australia when they are capable of doing it themselves and keep more of the profits? The only advantage that QF has is for traffic destined for cities outside SYD, MEL, BNE, CNS, ADL and PER. Of which I don't think there is much.
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Based on the reports by pilots in the AFR of half empty QF A380s headed to Dubai, I think the latter...
So that figure is Australia's population -PER?
Its not as though 21000000 people would be worse off if QF flew direct PER-Asia(except SIN) which is what your implying I think. Worst case 4000000 in SYD would have to go via PER to BKK,HKG,CGK etc. No one outside of SYD is really disadvantaged, because they still have to transit somewhere. At least PER is less out off the way.
Plus the 2000000(?) in PER get much better access, also Adelaide. Frequency could improve, as there would be shorter international routes.
I did not say you in PER backtracking to SYD was a good idea. But someone in ADL shouldn't have an issue.
I simply think it is not fair for Qantas to have to service every Australian capital with every major city in Asia but certainly some routes if profitable would be a good idea.
Qantas is never going to be able to compete with SQ, TG, MH, CX etc bringing you into their hubs and then on from there.
Back to ADL again. What is wrong with ADL-SYD-BKK on Qantas? Is ADL-HKG-BKK or ADL-KUL-BKK better? Yes I know TG could be an option but that is not Oneworld nor is it much choice.
I really hate going backwards on domestic flights going internationally just because that's what Qantas wants me to do. I'd much rather have a stop over in HK or fly SQ through efficient Singapore than spend an extra 6 hours backtracking through Sydney.
East coast transiting West coast and vice versa is nonsense when getting to Asian or European destinations.
I would have thought that West Coast going via East Coast to Asia makes less sense!