QANTAS takes A380s out of circulation [and reduces flights]

[Max Samuels]

I have a similar query. I have a J class MEL-SIN-LHR-CDG return (QF37 onto QF1 and then QF2 onto QF38) in May which I booked during the DSC promotion. Pre the DSC offer my plan was to book EK (QF codeshare) MEL-DXB-CDG for obvious reasons. If they offer to move me to the EK flights instead can I claim not only ORC but the DSC too??

I know I could ask to move to MEL-PER-LHR-CDG and thus still be eligible for the DSC offer. Assuming I still need to go i'd prefer to go as directly as possible now. Was prepared to route through LHR to 1. chance at an F upgrade to LHR on the 380 2. Try the new F Lounge in SIN and 3. obvsiouly fast track WP requal. But this all seems a little first world now.

Thanks in advance

It is all very first world but it is the world in which we live! If you can live without the SCs I would say cancel the trip and re-book a new trip on EK (prices have dropped massively).

If you stay with the QF booking I am keen to see if/how/what/when they do to accommodate people with such a drastic change in schedule, especially after encouraging everyone to book flights which they probably had every intention of cancelling!

Please keep us posted

 

[DC3]

I booked the flight during the DSC offer recently. The offer only applies to QF metal so a QF code on EK won't count for the DSCs.

Yes, but it’s called Original Routing Credit for a reason.

You can get the SCs (including the DSCs) and points that apply to your original booking. You made bookings to benefit from the DSC offer. Have I missed something in your posts?

 

[lynnk]

Has any one else not been able to log into their QFF bookings page since yesterday?

 

[ajw373]

But the cracks had already begun to show in EK's A380 dream? All those trans-Tasman flights they canned a couple of years ago... and this was pre-Corona hysteria.

That is a tad different, and from EK’s perspective those add on hops were (mostly) replaced by direct flights from DXB to NZ. So actually they use more planes as a result.

 

[bosox76]

It is all very first world but it is the world in which we live! If you can live without the SCs I would say cancel the trip and re-book a new trip on EK (prices have dropped massively).

If you stay with the QF booking I am keen to see if/how/what/when they do to accommodate people with such a drastic change in schedule, especially after encouraging everyone to book flights which they probably had every intention of cancelling!

Please keep us posted

Unfortunately with a bub my flying was going to be significantly reduced this year compared to previous (regardless of COVID-19). This would've meant requal without worry later in the year. But the trip may not go ahead anyway. If I do go I'll keep you updated on the offer from QF.

Yes, but it’s called Original Routing Credit for a reason.

You can get the SCs (including the DSCs) and points that apply to your original booking. You made bookings to benefit from the DSC offer. Have I missed something in your posts?

So am I right to assume that even if I was put onto EK with either EK of QF codes flying MEL-DXB-CDG that I could claim not only the SC but the DSC of MEL-SIN-LHR-CDG return?

 

[Max Samuels]

That is a tad different, and from EK’s perspective those add on hops were (mostly) replaced by direct flights from DXB to NZ. So actually they use more planes as a result.

1 x 777 and 1 x 380 - that's all they have now.... Not really the same capacity as the 3 x 380 (SYD, MEL, BNE) plus the direct flight they used to have....

 

[Lawrage]

But the cracks had already begun to show in EK's A380 dream? All those trans-Tasman flights they canned a couple of years ago... and this was pre-Corona hysteria.

The reduction in flights from Perth - Dubai hit us quite hard with redemptions

 

[DC3]

Has any one else not been able to log into their QFF bookings page since yesterday?

Just logged. All good here.

Maybe that IT kid who is sending out tens of thousands of revised e-tickets this week is messing with your account in his spare time.

 

[lynnk]

Just logged. All good here.

Maybe that IT kid who is sending out tens of thousands of revised e-tickets this week is messing with your account in his spare time.

I'm getting the "we are experiencing some problems" sign.... Can log in, just can't look at bookings.

 

[DC3]

... So am I right to assume that even if I was put onto EK with either EK of QF codes flying MEL-DXB-CDG that I could claim not only the SC but the DSC of MEL-SIN-LHR-CDG return?

You are entitled to apply for credit for the routing as originally booked with QF, regardless of what carrier/flights that QF have switched you to (involuntary changes on your part).

Edit: For the original routing, if that is of benefit to you. You will not receive DSC/SC/points for both the original, as well as the new revised, routing. Is that what you meant?

 

[Lawrage]

I'm getting the "we are experiencing some problems" sign.... Can log in, just can't look at bookings.

Manage my bookings appears to be working fine.

 

[lynnk]

Manage my bookings appears to be working fine.

Interesting... I can get in on the phone app but not on the computer.

 

[ajw373]

1 x 777 and 1 x 380 - that's all they have now.... Not really the same capacity as the 3 x 380 (SYD, MEL, BNE) plus the direct flight they used to have....

They never needed that capacity trans Tasman in the first place. They used it to generate traffic in NZ and as a way to utilise planes that would otherwise be parked up in Australian all day.

And as I mentioned it now requires more plans as those flights are direct from DXB.

 

[DC3]

I'm getting the "we are experiencing some problems" sign.... Can log in, just can't look at bookings.

Just checked again. Still good. Bookings are still showing the same as yesterday.

Edit: I take that back. No good at all now.

Update: QF app on iPad is showing everything as it should, including managing each booking. Web browser (safari) is no good at the moment.

 

[lynnk]

Just checked again. Still good. Bookings are still showing the same as yesterday.

For some reason I can view them on the phone app but not the computer. Hmm

 

[dajop]

they may be well placed to pick up customers that need to get around without going via asia at the moment.

Is that still a thing? Are people still wanting to avoid Asia to travel to Europe? Or people who thought this originally now more inclined to just avoid travel altogether? And that’s putting aside the rise in cases in UAE, which still only around 50, will no doubt rise in the coming weeks too.

 

[Lawrage]

Is that still a thing? Are people still wanting to avoid Asia to travel to Europe? Or people who thought this originally now more inclined to just avoid travel altogether? And that’s putting aside the rise in cases in UAE, which still only around 50, will no doubt rise in the coming weeks too.

Its an interesting one, if you are an average person consuming all the media BS that is out there you would likely stay away from the Asia region if there are other options.

You then have companies (Have seen 3 now from people I know) with emails along the lines of dont come to work for 14 days if you have been in any of the following countries. I have seen ones listing Singapore, others listing Asia as a whole.

The fear mongering for the average person is very real.

Me personally, am more worried about my flights via the UAE in June rather than via Singapore for that month.

 

[Max Samuels]

They never needed that capacity trans Tasman in the first place. They used it to generate traffic in NZ and as a way to utilise planes that would otherwise be parked up in Australian all day.

And as I mentioned it now requires more plans as those flights are direct from DXB.

Meh.. each to their own.
I see this an over-capacity issue specific to EK's choice to use only 777/380 - they wouldn't have canned the trans-Tasman sectors if they were profitable. Also I don't get the more planes in the sky argument as the direct AKL-DXB services where running at the same time the others were.... so fewer planes in the air?

 

[bosox76]

You are entitled to apply for credit for the routing as originally booked with QF, regardless of what carrier/flights that QF have switched you to (involuntary changes on your part).

Edit: For the original routing, if that is of benefit to you. You will not receive DSC/SC/points for both the original, as well as the new revised, routing. Is that what you meant?

Yes. I don’t expect a double double up. The original routing would net more SC’s than a new routing through DXB. If I’m routed through PER I think it’s the same. So if I end up on EK then it appears I’d apply for the ORC and also the DSC that applied to the original routing. Does that make sense?

 

[simmomelb]

Why do you say passengers won't want to travel via Perth? In this climate, with so much going on, if I really want to get to London, I'll take any flight available.

Really? I won't be going via Perth now, that is adding another stop and a lot more flying time. London flight times are long enough. I'll take any airline that is the most direct route.

Now to get a refund on my flight with Qantas and rebook elsewhere.