Qantas to Buenos Aires in Premium Eco & Business

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I'm booking a trip to Buenos Aires for Easter 2011. At the moment I am looking at premium Econ one way and business the other, business would be through points upgrade. Has anyone travelled this route in either class? Just want to know if its a fully flat business seat, new premium Econ or premium econ using old business class seats etc etc.

All thoughts welcome
 
I'm booking a trip to Buenos Aires for Easter 2011. At the moment I am looking at premium Econ one way and business the other, business would be through points upgrade. Has anyone travelled this route in either class? Just want to know if its a fully flat business seat, new premium Econ or premium econ using old business class seats etc etc.

All thoughts welcome

SYD-EZE is served by a B744, so you'll have the older almost-horizontal flat bed seats in biz with the new premium economy seats for premium economy.
 
Easter is still a fair way off, but one thing to consider is that currently it seems that PE on that route is actually in sky beds (I have a booking for November, and have been pre-allocated seats in row 29).
 
Easter is still a fair way off, but one thing to consider is that currently it seems that PE on that route is actually in sky beds (I have a booking for November, and have been pre-allocated seats in row 29).

That was one of my concerns with upgrading to business class as I'd rather not use points to do this if the PE seat is also a skybed. But as you say Easter is far away so I'll probably only know a little nearer to the time.

Thanks for the comments.
 
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I am looking at premium Econ one way and business the other, business would be through points upgrade.

seems a tall order to obtain an upgrade at Easter.

Didn't know of any 'old' Y+ seats. Apart from some minor differences between the A380 and 747 seats (e.g. Slightly Bigger TV screen in the former) I thought all the Y+ seats were new.

Cheers skip
 
I travelled this route in J last year and I rate that flight as my most “ordinary” QF J experience. My aircraft had the original Skybeds (flat, but not horizontal) but that wasn’t the issue because I’ve had these many times. I just found the whole product looked very tired. The plane was absolutely packed, there was a single welcome drink with nuts and then nothing for several hours until lunch was served. After that they packed it all up, turned off the lights and that was it for the service aspect. It was a bit like JQ StarClass but with Skybeds and an older plane.
 
Does anyone know if this leg still has the F seat, preallocated 3a this weekend

Cheers
 
I travelled this route in J last year and I rate that flight as my most “ordinary” QF J experience. My aircraft had the original Skybeds (flat, but not horizontal) but that wasn’t the issue because I’ve had these many times. I just found the whole product looked very tired. The plane was absolutely packed, there was a single welcome drink with nuts and then nothing for several hours until lunch was served. After that they packed it all up, turned off the lights and that was it for the service aspect. It was a bit like JQ StarClass but with Skybeds and an older plane.
interesting!!..did u leave the aircraft at any time during the flight?? there are 2 full meal services on this flight.. as well as the self serve snack/bar incuding prepared hot snacks when requested ..(as per whats written on the menu!!)
 
interesting!!..did u leave the aircraft at any time during the flight?? there are 2 full meal services on this flight.. as well as the self serve snack/bar incuding prepared hot snacks when requested ..(as per whats written on the menu!!)

Whoa. Steady on newbie. When your post count is higher than your age, you’ve got to keep the cheek in check. Have you flown it or are you going by “whats [sic] on the menu”? They served breakfast in the morning. Sure. But that wasn’t my point. And the self-serve snack bar doesn’t count as “service” in my book. I’m not a QF bagger - in fact I’m a fan - but this was just an ordinary flight for me and the service was the biggest issue. I didn’t even mention the fact that the in-flight entertainment system went down and required a call back to Sydney to reboot it - which took them four hours or so to organise - but a few years ago that used to happen once every three or so flights with QF. I’ve moved on. QF J is not the holy grail that I used to think it was.
 
Have a look at the seat map, row 3 would be 1-2-1 if F, 2-2-2 if J.

I didnt want to as i didnt want to select the domestic seats (cant select row 1) and cant leave it as window. Anyway, decided to do it and it is 1-2-1 so should be a good trip, 3A there and 2A return
 
Whoa. Steady on newbie. When your post count is higher than your age, you’ve got to keep the cheek in check. Have you flown it or are you going by “whats [sic] on the menu”? They served breakfast in the morning. Sure. But that wasn’t my point. And the self-serve snack bar doesn’t count as “service” in my book. I’m not a QF bagger - in fact I’m a fan - but this was just an ordinary flight for me and the service was the biggest issue. I didn’t even mention the fact that the in-flight entertainment system went down and required a call back to Sydney to reboot it - which took them four hours or so to organise - but a few years ago that used to happen once every three or so flights with QF. I’ve moved on. QF J is not the holy grail that I used to think it was.

That sounds like a normal trip on a QF 747!
 
Slightly OT but I'm heading to Buenos Aires myself (combining it with a trip to Machu Picchu so flying LAN internally in South America) over the same period. Any tips on what to do once I'm there? Interesting sights, good bars or restaurants and the like? From looking at the guide books, it seems to be more of a place to absorb the ambience rather than get up to much (except for mischief).

Gracias!
 
Slightly OT but I'm heading to Buenos Aires myself (combining it with a trip to Machu Picchu so flying LAN internally in South America) over the same period. Any tips on what to do once I'm there? Interesting sights, good bars or restaurants and the like? From looking at the guide books, it seems to be more of a place to absorb the ambience rather than get up to much (except for mischief).

Gracias!

I've only been there once for work but did manage to spend a day in Buenos Aires. One nice area is on the edge of the city - little wharf called Puerto Madero I think, lots of cafes and great food, good atmosphere. One thing to note, most Argentinians dont eat until late, after 10pm is when it gets busy so if it's quiet then thats why.
 
An interesting city with lots to do! I did this route last year in Premium Economy and I was very happy with it. Flying close to the South Pole was also memorable.

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Although off the topic, this is another good flight for that, SYD-JNB. Probably the furthest south I have flown on that flight
 

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Having done SCL-AKL and SYD-JNB I can say you really do end up a long way south! kind-of cool, kind-of scary knowing if there's a problem it's a looooong way to anywhere that an emergency landing would be survivable!

Try and have a gaze out the window at night - the starlight is incredible - so bright (compared to being in the city!).
 
Does anyone know if this leg still has the F seat, preallocated 3a this weekend

Cheers

If you are doing QF17 on Saturday then you do have a First seat. Seat map shows as 1 2 1.

Cheers,

EMil
 
Mal P, things to do in Buenos Aires:

1. La Boca is the port district with brightly painted houses, which is pretty touristy but worth a look. There's a great artspace, La Fundación PROA, around the corner, which can have some great shows.

2. The markets at San Telmo on a Sunday are also touristy, but fun.

3. Eating at local specialty restaurants, called parilla, which feature grilled meats. There are also some restaurants featuring foods from the Andean regions of Argentina, which are great.

4. Palermo Viejo is an old district featuring a lot of homewares, design shops, restaurants and bars, and is quite busy on the weekends.

5. The bar and club scene is pretty big, and obviously varies from season to season. Timeout publish a magazine-format guide to Buenos Aires regularly, which is available at the street stalls along Avenida Sante Fe.

6. The delta cruises up in Tigre (about an hour north by train) are interesting: it's where wealthy porteños have their weekenders.

7. Several ferries per day cross the Río Plate to Colonia del Sacramento in Uruguay, a 17th century port town. You can go over for the day.

8. See tango: there are small bars where you can watch dancers tango, large stage shows with lots of dancers, and also dance halls where locals go to dance.

9. Recoleta Cemetery is interesting, and the surrounding area has some good restaurants and bars.
 
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