Qatar Airways to acquire 25% of Virgin Australia

[justinbrett]

I’m smart enough to realise that Qantas writes a formal letter to someone like ACCC they should write what they mean, not something else. And when they give a reference to support a statement, the statement should reflect what the reference says, not something else.

“Qatari” does not mean 'crew working as Qatari residents' (or even Qatari residents working as crew ) It means 'of Qatar'. International airline crew for a particular national airline can be residents of anywhere and that’s covered in what the reference actually said.I think many Qantas crew are residents of countries other than Australia.

Further, if Qantas was smart enough, they would’ve reference the EU situation you mention rather than referencing ECAC recommendations and implying some sort of jurisdictional decision there.

Its a sloppy and carelessly written letter and worthy of the name 'amateur' especially when you consider the recipient would be well aware of Qantas' past behaviour in relation to employment laws and the hiring foreign pilots and cabin crew.

I disagree. Qatari is the adjective. It doesn’t necessarily mandate nationality.

We would say Kiwi crew for any employee of JetConnect without requiring NZ citizenship. American crew, could involve a number of Mexicans and Canadians working with visas.

ECAC are the perfect body to cite as they set the standards for Europe.

Fortunately ACCC aren’t spiteful, they will address the concerns on merit without an agenda.

 

[simmomelb]

We would say Kiwi crew for any employee of JetConnect without requiring NZ citizenship. American crew, could involve a number of Mexicans and Canadians working with visas.

Well I hate to point out the obvious, but Mexicans and Canadians, are, American, given that's the continent they reside in
It reminds me of a Flight Centre advertisement for "Europe AND England".

 

[justinbrett]

Well I hate to point out the obvious, but Mexicans and Canadians, are, American, given that's the continent they reside in
It reminds me of a Flight Centre advertisement for "Europe AND England".

I can guarantee no sane Canadian or Mexican refers to themselves as American.

 

[p--and--t]

It reminds me of a Flight Centre advertisement for "Europe AND England".

Sometimes these things are complicated and hard to understand even for “mainstream media”.

 

[simmomelb]

I can guarantee no sane Canadian or Mexican refers to themselves as American.

Sure about that?
You've just offended some family members, they are sane and laugh when people refer to America as the only the USA, they question people's knowledge of geography.
Just as I have family from Brasil, who definitely consider themselves American.

 

[ben95]

Its a sloppy and carelessly written letter and worthy of the name 'amateur' especially when you consider the recipient would be well aware of Qantas' past behaviour in relation to employment laws and the hiring foreign pilots and cabin crew.

It's madness how Qantas was able to write a letter like this with a straight face. Qantas, under Alan Joyce, poinerred the use of cheap labour in this sector here in Australia, whether that's foreign based crew or through labour hire.

The issue raised, it's a valid point, but it's laughable when it came out of the mouth of Qantas - perfect example of the Qantas culture and approch to use the law only when it suits them as depicted in Joe Aston's book.

 

[RooFlyer]

I disagree. Qatari is the adjective. It doesn’t necessarily mandate nationality.

In that case, we actually agree – again!

Fortunately ACCC aren’t spiteful, they will address the concerns on merit without an agenda.

There’s <are some members> here who definitely think the ACCC are spiteful and have an agenda!

 

[p--and--t]

poinerred the use of cheap labour

Understand your comment but hardly true in wider context. Filipino ex pat painters and maintenance staff stuck on WA oil rigs for up to 12 month's with salary of <$10k pa comes to mind. Taiwanese workers on QLD farms for month's on end working long hours 7dpw for <$50pd net.

 

[ben95]

Understand your comment but hardly true in wider context

I didn't mean that. It's specifically for the aviation sector - pilots, crew or ground handling.

 

[p--and--t]

I didn't mean that. It's specifically for the aviation sector - pilots, crew or ground handling.

And you think the middle east carriers haven't been doing for yonks?