QF no more paper based BP!

[RooFlyer]

Anyone still wishing planes had radial engines and propellers? I'm finding this the funniest, and saddest, of threads

Surely you only travel on solar powered aircraft then? Or do you make exceptions to your environmental virtue when it suits? Seems you do, which is perfectly fine, of course, as I think we all do.

Certainly many have no problem whizzing about the world in First Class, staying in big aircon hotels, attending gabfests on the topic of 'saving the planet'.

 

[justinbrett]

JQ a couple weeks ago to Uluru. Lots of people with mobile bps. No issues. Re roaming and not being able to access bps, as FlygirlNZ has said, both iPhone and most if not all newer google/android phones offer a wallet feature that you save bps to. I've been using it for a long time. Used it in China last year. When I had to claim for some missing flights from Brasil a couple of years back, I just gave flight details, no paper required. Piles of dust mite harbouring bps sitting around? Just why? I'm not a millennial. I'm about to turn 56. The past was yesterday, I don't want to go back there. We don't get paper invoices for anything. Everything is online/emailed. If I need to, I have an electronic copy of it. We have solar hot water, water tank, a credit every quarter from origin for the energy generated by our pva system, low power oled tv, we're recyclers and worm farmers. Hardly a comment supporting the environmental aspect of this. It may well be about money but the environment will benefit. Don't start again about what a phone is made of. Please. Already been said. Anyone still wishing planes had radial engines and propellers? I'm finding this the funniest, and saddest, of threads

It works for point to point airlines such as JQ (I will say, flying JQ domestic, it does take longer to board due to many passengers forgetting their need to display their boarding pass when entering the cabin. It was objectively faster when everybody had paper).

International travel when you are flying Airline A, checked in and connecting from Airline B on an airline C ticket.... not so much. Qantas would have passengers like this on almost all of its flights, including domestic.

We can't even get online seat assignment working for most codeshare flights - there's little hope in integrated digital boarding passes.

 

[bPeteb]

Surely you only travel on solar powered aircraft then? Or do you make exceptions to your environmental virtue when it suits? Seems you do, which is perfectly fine, of course, as I think we all do.

Certainly many have no problem whizzing about the world in First Class, staying in big aircon hotels, attending gabfests on the topic of 'saving the planet'.

No RooFlyer. No virtue, we do what we can, when we can and don't deliberately waste if it's avoidable, so agree with you there. And agree with you about the environmental grabbers like one ex-VP of the USA...

We like travel, to get there we fly, or cruise. It has an impact. We just try to make as little impact as possible, where and when possible.

We applaud QF for this initiative of which the bps are such a tiny thing and yet have got the most reaction. Hopefully bio fuel next.

Flame on

 

[leadman]

JQ a couple weeks ago to Uluru. Lots of people with mobile bps. No issues. Re roaming and not being able to access bps, as FlygirlNZ has said, both iPhone and most if not all newer google/android phones offer a wallet feature that you save bps to. I've been using it for a long time. Used it in China last year. When I had to claim for some missing flights from Brasil a couple of years back, I just gave flight details, no paper required. Piles of dust mite harbouring bps sitting around? Just why? I'm not a millennial. I'm about to turn 56. The past was yesterday, I don't want to go back there. We don't get paper invoices for anything. Everything is online/emailed. If I need to, I have an electronic copy of it. We have solar hot water, water tank, a credit every quarter from origin for the energy generated by our pva system, low power oled tv, we're recyclers and worm farmers. Hardly a comment supporting the environmental aspect of this. It may well be about money but the environment will benefit. Don't start again about what a phone is made of. Please. Already been said. Anyone still wishing planes had radial engines and propellers? I'm finding this the funniest, and saddest, of threads

To each his own.... Whilst i agree with your comments, what i would like to see is the whole picture spelt out by companies in their PR's just not a few "cherry-picked" items. I face these on a weekly basis in my industry where a "new" idea will come but only treating the best parts, 20% odd, but leaving the harder parts and making things and the environment worse off. We all love to watch those pretty colourful documentaries, but when it comes to the ugly parts most quickly turn off......

 

[wandering_fred]

well planes could still fly if the phone grid fails or the electricity doesn't make it to the airport, but could the airlines check anyone in? I seem to recall a couple of (spectacular) failures over east.
I average at least two power outages a year not counting the half a dozen sub station switches (2 seconds - enough to reset the digital clocks)

We need more millennials in the prepper movement....

Just wandering
Fred

 

[Melburnian1]

It's a great initiative in its own right and worth supporting! It's sad to see how perfectly fine recyclable material goes to mixed waste these days so any step in avoiding waste and processing it better is welcomed.....

Not necessarily 'sad', because sometimes the energy expended in all the steps of the recycling process may be more than using virgin material.

 

[docjames]

I’d have thought the simplest solution (getting away from cost and environmental impact of physical bps) would be to keep them available at the airport at a (nominal) fee. So then the truly techo-phobe or the collectors can actually get one, or in markets where a physical bp is required they can always waive the fee.

If a physical bp was a $5 fee, I’m sure plenty would switch to use the e-version / not bother to print one at the airport.

 

[Kiwi_Flyer]

If a physical bp was a $5 fee, I’m sure plenty would switch to use the e-version / not bother to print one at the airport.

Could be problematic for international. Save money arrive at security or immigration only to be rejected. (NB this can happen on arrival as well as departure so would cause issues for the airline also.)

 

[leadman]

If a physical bp was a $5 fee, I’m sure plenty would switch to use the e-version / not bother to print one at the airport.

Why??? Cannot the Luddites have one throwback to a civil age?

 

[docjames]

It’s a nominal amount to encourage uptake of the e-version.

 

[leadman]

It’s a nominal amount to encourage uptake of the e-version.

And to be fair it should be $25 for the app!

 

[RooFlyer]

It’s a nominal amount to encourage uptake of the e-version.

What will they pay me to encourage me not to take the flight and so not contribute to those nasty greenhouse gases generated by the aircraft, let alone that lovely coal fired electricity used to power the electronic device? That's a far greater environmental saving than a 5g paper BP.

 

[leadman]

What will they pay me to encourage me not to take the flight and so not contribute to those nasty greenhouse gases generated by the aircraft, let alone that lovely coal fired electricity used to power the electronic device? That's a far greater environmental saving than a 5g paper BP.

hear, hear........

 

[tdimdad]

Looks like someone at QF is attempting to line some ducks up for this. The current update for the Android app says: "You can now check in for multi-stop Qantas flights. Select your seat and get your digital boarding pass through to London and New York."

Works probably perfectly fine when all the required stars align but for those of us who are hesitant about star signs and alignments, we can see about a hundred points where this may fail (including a number of valid points already made in this thread). I'd love to see the User Acceptance Testing (UAT) results of this latest feature. Or even the user story and how it was defended against obvious risks for adoption.

 

[Mr H]

I still regret that boarding passes no longer have the pocket on the back for holding the ticket coupon.

 

[leadman]

I still regret that boarding passes no longer have the pocket on the back for holding the ticket coupon.

Yes, i was just talking to the girls in the Typing Pool about it the other day as they were typing my report in triplicate on Onion paper and carbon paper!

 

[tdimdad]

Yes, i was just talking to the girls in the Typing Pool about it the other day as they were typing my report in triplicate on Onion paper and carbon paper!

Say what???

 

[kpc]

Hot tip: screenshot your BP. yesterday, i couln't generate +1s Mobile VA BP from the SMS link at the boarding gate as the Q behind me looked on annoyinglyl...so had to rely on the screenshot I had taken earler!

 

[leadman]

Say what???

sounds like you are far, far to young to remember the halcyon days of office life!

 

[Franky]

Hot tip: screenshot your BP. yesterday, i couln't generate +1s Mobile VA BP from the SMS link at the boarding gate as the Q behind me looked on annoyinglyl...so had to rely on the screenshot I had taken earler!

Please advise what a +1s Mobile VA BP from a SMS link might be?...