QF30 Emergency Landing in MNL after door "Popped"

[oz_mark]

I wonder how long they will want to keep the plane for investigation before starting atleast doing a repair for a non-presurised ferry flight to where it will be repaired if not where it is.

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Lufthansa Technic have a sizeable maintenance operation there, so there is a chance that they would do a degree of maintenance while it was still in Manila.

 

[Keith009]

Just got home on today's QF30. Rather uneventful flight I must say. Talk on the plane was the QF30 decompression incident, my seatmate's ex gf was an FA on that flight and he showed me her smses that she'd sent out telling everyone that she's safe and sound in MNL etc. Then they handed out newspapers and on the front page was a story of the QF30 incident along with pics of the damaged aircraft. Reminded me of the time I flew SQ the day after SQ6.

Onboard experience itself was fantastic as usual - thanks again QF. More in my trip report. TR updates to continue in the next 24 hours or so - promise!

 

[Evan]

I did a BA 777 flight into LHR the day after that incident, and same thing, front page of the paper
Some people feel really uncomfortable about those things but i guess you really just need to remember travel by plane is so much safer than by any other means !

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[Driver]

Just read the whole thread on flyertalk.com and the whole thread here. I have to say that, since finding this forum my loyalties have changed. There is talk on their forum of galahs. Silly birds that jump up and down, flap their wings a lot and screech hysterically, as if to say 'look at me'! There seem to be a lot of galahs taking wild guesses and making outlandish statements. This forum seems to be full of people who are caring and concerned and I like the way you are not very tolerant of those who venture towards surmising and being inflammatory. The Australian personality comes through. Well done - you create interesting reading.

 

[drron]

Read the replies in the Courier Mail.Now they are something.Someone even suggested checking out a plane's service history before boarding.Now if it does turn out to be a service issue is this clown only going to fly on a plane serviced in Asia?

 

[Evan]

Read the replies in the Courier Mail.Now they are something.Someone even suggested checking out a plane's service history before boarding.Now if it does turn out to be a service issue is this clown only going to fly on a plane serviced in Asia?

And i am guessing the "service" history of a plane like this runs to 10's of thousands of pages !!! hahaha.

In Japan JL put even the name & photo of the cheif engineer responsible of the plane as you board the plane... so if you do happen to land you know who to go looking for hehehe Interesting culteral view on face and responsability.

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[Flying Fox]

Someone even suggested checking out a plane's service history before boarding. Now if it does turn out to be a service issue is this clown only going to fly on a plane serviced in Asia?

As if this schmuck could even understand what was written in the service history. He would probably need to use OLCI 24hrs before departure to start reading the service history before boarding the flight.

 

[straitman]

As if this schmuck could even understand what was written in the service history. He would probably need to use OLCI 24hrs before departure to start reading the service history before boarding the flight.

.... and what would he then do if there was a last minute aircraft substitution :?: :shock:

 

[Flying Fox]

If anyone is interested, an interview and video footage from inside the aircraft.

BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Qantas landing caught on camera

 

[Mal]

Just read the whole thread on flyertalk.com and the whole thread here. I have to say that, since finding this forum my loyalties have changed. There is talk on their forum of galahs.

There are a couple of threads on Flyertalk (FT) about the incident. The one that involves "galahs" is in the Travel Safety&Security forum - basically a whinge forum for people who hate the TSA security in America. Definately full of galahs and other over-the-top characters.

The better thread is in the Qantas Forum @ FT where (mainly) rational thinkers have posted.

 

[holdenvxman]

If anyone is interested, an interview and video footage from inside the aircraft.

BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Qantas landing caught on camera

Correct me if im wrong but all electronics should be off during landing :?::idea:

 

[Sprucegoose]

As a person who does many hours a month in the air, i must admit that I am becomming a little despondent of QANTAS's safety track record of late. I am nor sure who else shares this view but I believe Geoff Dixon is trying to sell the airline down, not dissimilar to the ANSETT debarcle.

After the failed takeover, Dixon missing his $60m bonus has cut costs at every corner. An airline without a major incident will be worth twice as much as one with that liability.

WAKE UP DIXON - time to take a walk and smell the roses with Jackson.:evil:

 

[dajop]

QANTAS's safety track record of late.

An oft repeated phrase. Fact or fiction that Qantas's safety record is declining? (as opposed to appears to be declining- which on face value it does.) Some near misses, but thankfully no actual tragic incidents.

Is it that QF, because of their record (combined with some disgruntled staff) are attracting more attention than most other airlines do get?

Could this incident have happened on any airline?

Do we not hear about as many incidents as if they occur on DJ, SQ, EK, TT, NZ & others, yet hear about every go-around if it involves QF?

Very hard for a casual observer to make any fact based commentary about "Qantas's safety record of late", let alone blame it on Geoff Dixon. It may indeed be where the blame lies, and their record may indeed have deteriorated but it would be best to leave that up to the aviation safety experts.

As for the public - is this incident going to cause them to suddenly switch allegiances and fly with others .... or better the devil you know?

 

[SeaWolf]

QF does market themselves very heavily on safety though. It's natural that when they don't live up to their own hype that they're going to get called on it.

And frankly, it's a silly thing to be hyping. Yes, they have an excellent safety record and have never lost a jet aircraft or had a fatal jet crash. But a good chunk of jet accidents have been the result of things that the airlines have no control over at all. Things like design flaws or unpredictable conditions. Even with the very best maintenance and standards, things do sometimes go wrong. QF has excellent standards, but so do a lot of airlines that have lost jets or had fatal accidents. The difference is that up till now QF has just been luckier than those airlines.

 

[needaholiday]

In todays AGE..

Valve in oxygen cylinder the culprit in 747 explosion

A VALVE from an oxygen cylinder blasted a hole at least 20 centimetres in diameter in the floor of the passenger cabin of the Qantas 747 stricken in last week's mid-air emergency.
"We recovered a valve from an oxygen cylinder," Neville Blyth, a senior investigator with the Australian Transport and Safety Bureau, told a news conference yesterday. "It is likely that that valve is from the missing cylinder."

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An oxygen cylinder had never before exploded mid-air on a passenger aircraft, a Civil Aviation Safety Authority spokesman, Peter Gibson, said yesterday. He confirmed the oxygen cylinder was missing, and would be a key focus of the bureau investigation.
"If it turns out that is the cause of the accident, the cause of the hole in the side of the aircraft, obviously that will be a key part of the investigation - working out why a bottle would suddenly give way," he said.
Last night, a Melbourne-bound Qantas flight had to return to Adelaide soon after take-off because a mechanical problem.
A Qantas spokeswoman confirmed that flight QF692 "performed a routine air-turn back … due to an indication that one of their landing gear doors failed to retract".
"The aircraft (a Boeing 737-800) landed without incident and all passengers were accommodated on other flights. There was no safety risk at any time," she said.

Valve in oxygen cylinder the culprit in 747 explosion | theage.com.au

 

[oz_mark]

QF does market themselves very heavily on safety though. It's natural that when they don't live up to their own hype that they're going to get called on it.

And frankly, it's a silly thing to be hyping. Yes, they have an excellent safety record and have never lost a jet aircraft or had a fatal jet crash. But a good chunk of jet accidents have been the result of things that the airlines have no control over at all. Things like design flaws or unpredictable conditions. Even with the very best maintenance and standards, things do sometimes go wrong. QF has excellent standards, but so do a lot of airlines that have lost jets or had fatal accidents. The difference is that up till now QF has just been luckier than those airlines.

Do Qantas themselves actually hype the safety thing though?

I also agree that in some cases, luck has been on the side of the roo.

 

[pauly7]

QF does market themselves very heavily on safety though. It's natural that when they don't live up to their own hype that they're going to get called on it.

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Rubbish!!

Sorry but that is blatently untrue, QF does not market themselves heavily, come to mind - even at all on safety.

It is implied by third parties.

It would be almost suicidal for any airline to go out and claim safety as their number one selling point because it only takes 1 incident and your whole strategy is shot, jumped all over by the media - even someone falling down the aircraft stairs @ and breaking a leg would be enough!

 

[straitman]

Rubbish!!

Sorry but that is blatently untrue, QF does not market themselves heavily, come to mind - even at all on safety.

It is implied by third parties.

It would be almost suicidal for any airline to go out and claim safety as their number one selling point because it only takes 1 incident and your whole strategy is shot, jumped all over by the media - even someone falling down the aircraft stairs @ and breaking a leg would be enough!

pauly7,

Why don't you say what you really mean :!:

 

[Keith009]

Sorry but that is blatently untrue, QF does not market themselves heavily, come to mind - even at all on safety.

Didn't the latest ad campaign ("The World's Most Experienced Airline") touch on the safety bit? Something about QF's technical excellence.

 

[pauly7]

pauly7,

Why don't you say what you really mean :!:

Haha I know, my FIRST off the handle post!!

After a week of horrendus reporting and mis-information distribution by the Australian media, that information just took me back to a 'Today Tonight' esque summary, i.e. so far off the mark... it just hit my button!

No personal offence intended of course to Seawolf, it is easy I guess for people to hear those kind of stories and accept them when on the face of it they 'make sense' but aren't actually factually correct at all. Hey we have 3 networks and countless newspapers making a mint out of it!!