QF9 Diverted to Singapore

[Jos888]

Does anyone know why QF9 was diverted to Singapore last night?

 

[defurax]

Don't know why, but it appears they turned around near Cocos Keeling Islands and went to SIN. They tracked exactly over CCK so maybe they considered stopping there if it was necessary.

 

[milehighclub]

Medical

 

[kpro]

FR24's history for QF9 is interesting. Does QF re-use this number for a Dash 8 from Sydney to Orange? (23 June).

Additionally, on 22, 21 and 19 June it says that the flight was supposed to be from Sydney to Manila, but that the Dash 8 diverted to Orange instead.

Whats the cause of these anomalies? Incorrect interpretation of the underlying data?

 

[AIRwin]

Don't know why, but it appears they turned around near Cocos Keeling Islands and went to SIN.

CGK looks to be closer than SIN

 

[defurax]

CGK looks to be closer than SIN

But I guess there's a QF 789 crew in SIN to operate QF36 while no QF 789 crew in CGK, only A330 crew.

 

[Human]

Medical

Are you speculating or do you have firm information? What’s your source?

 

[serfty]

Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com

Flight Status Search:
Departing on 23/06/23
Flying QF flight 9

Flight   Status           Depart Location  Depart Date                   Reliability  Arrive Location  Arrive Date
                          MEL              Scheduled: 23/06/23 3:05 PM                PER              Scheduled: 23/06/23 5:15 PM
QF 9     Landed           Term: 2          Estimated: 23/06/23 3:19 PM   69% / 65m    Term: 3          Estimated: 23/06/23 5:28 PM
                          Gate: 7          Actual: 23/06/23 3:19 PM                   Gate: 20         Actual: 23/06/23 5:28 PM

                          PER              Scheduled: 23/06/23 6:45 PM                LHR              Scheduled: 24/06/23 5:05 AM
QF 9     Diverted toSIN   Term: 3          Estimated: 23/06/23 6:56 PM   48% / 64m    Term:            Estimated: 24/06/23 1:30 AM
                          Gate: 20         Actual: 23/06/23 6:56 PM                   Gate:            Actual: 24/06/23 1:30 AM


Comments:
"DOQF9/23JUN
* OPERATIONAL FLIGHT INFO *            QF   9   -1 FR 23JUN23   
CITY INFO                                       HOUR (LOCAL)  
  
MEL  LEFT THE GATE                              1519            
     TOOK OFF                                   1541            
     ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL                  1722     PER    
PER  AIRCRAFT LANDED                            1719            
     ARRIVED                                    1728            
SIN  AIRCRAFT LANDED                            0123            
     ARRIVED                                    0130            
     ESTIMATED TIME OF DEPARTURE                2335            
     ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL                  0605     LHR    
*1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO*              QF   9   -1 FR 23JUN23 ASM
APT ARR   DY DEP   DY CLASS/MEAL          EQP  GRND  EFT   TTL  
MEL          1505  FR JCDIUWRTZYB/H       789         4:10      
HKMLVSNQOGX/H                             
                      E/H                                       
PER 1715  FR 1845  FR JCDIUWRTZYB/HR            1:30  6:35      
                      HKMLVSNQOGX/HR                            
                      E/HR                                      
SIN 0120  SA 0200  SA JCDIUWRTZYB/HR            0:40 12:15      
LHR 0715  SA                                               25:10
COMMENTS-
 1.ENTIRE FLT- MEMBER OF ONEWORLD                               
 2.MEL PER   - DEPARTS TERMINAL 2                               
 3.PER SIN   - DEPARTS TERMINAL 4                               
 4.SIN LHR   - DEPARTS TERMINAL 1                               
 5.MEL PER   - ARRIVES TERMINAL 3                               
6.PER SIN   - ARRIVES TERMINAL 1                               
 7.SIN LHR   - ARRIVES TERMINAL 3                               
 8.PER SIN   -   1/ MOVIE                                       
 9.SIN LHR   -   1/ MOVIE                                       
10.ENTIRE FLT-   4/ AUDIO PROGRAMMING                           
11.ENTIRE FLT-   9/ NON-SMOKING                                 
12.ENTIRE FLT-  ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE                    
13.ENTIRE FLT- ADV PAX WWW.SMARTRAVELLER.GOV.AU AND REF GG APIS 
14.ENTIRE FLT- COVID19 TRAVEL REQUIREMENTS APPLY                
15.ENTIRE FLT- REFER WWW.QANTAS.COM                             
16.MEL PER   -  CO2/PAX* 177.43 KG ECO, 177.43 KG PRE           
17.MEL SIN   -  CO2/PAX* 389.46 KG ECO, 601.49 KG PRE           
18.MEL LHR   -  CO2/PAX* 859.66 KG ECO, 1,541.88 KG PRE         
19.PER SIN   -  CO2/PAX* 212.03 KG ECO, 424.06 KG PRE           
20.PER LHR   -  CO2/PAX* 682.23 KG ECO, 1,364.46 KG PRE         
21.SIN LHR   -  CO2/PAX* 470.20 KG ECO, 940.40 KG PRE           
 (*):SOURCE:ICAO CARBON EMISSIONS CALCULATOR                  
CONFIGURATION-
               789  J  42   W  28   Y 166                       
>"

 

[madrooster]

But I guess there's a QF 789 crew in SIN to operate QF36 while no QF 789 crew in CGK, only A330 crew.

The QF36 crew are AU B789 crew. They wouldn't operate to LHR.

In this case it'd be the QF1/2 A388 SIN-LHR/LHR-SIN UK crew that can operate on the QF9/10 as I believe they are dual rated.

 

[milehighclub]

The QF36 crew are AU B789 crew. They wouldn't operate to LHR.

They can. It happened only this week when Australian crew went to London when the QF1 was badly delayed.

That could in theory happen as well but the QF35/QF36 run only has 3 pilots, so there isn't enough pilots to get to LHR, so no point sending any Australian cabin crew as everyone has to wait for a 4th pilot to achieve minimum rest. So it would be the same pilots and crew.

Post automatically merged: Jun 24, 2023

Are you speculating or do you have firm information? What’s your source?

I know the crew

 

[madrooster]

That could in theory happen as well but the QF35/QF36 run only has 3 pilots

I agree, in theory yes, but we're probably unlikely to see it happen practically for this reason.

 

[Mattg]

FR24's history for QF9 is interesting. Does QF re-use this number for a Dash 8 from Sydney to Orange? (23 June).

Additionally, on 22, 21 and 19 June it says that the flight was supposed to be from Sydney to Manila, but that the Dash 8 diverted to Orange instead.

Whats the cause of these anomalies? Incorrect interpretation of the underlying data?

SYD-OAG is QF2009. The callsign is shortened to Q-Link 9D (and is tracked as QLK9 - not to be confused with QFA9), which causes a bit of confusion with some of the websites.

QLK9 QantasLink Flight Tracking and History - FlightAware

Track QantasLink #9 flight from Sydney to Orange

flightaware.com

 

[SYD]

CGK looks to be closer than SIN

But visa free entry into SIN v CGK might have been factored if PAX needed to deplane (to use that horrible American phrase). Where’s Tattoo when you need him?

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwidhqa-sdz_AhWJH-wKHTzVAvkQwqsBegQIDhAF&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DUSfKJYZcUmI&usg=AOvVaw0DVKb60o6ri5IAl3xARjiQ&opi=89978449

 

[madrooster]

QF9/23JUN is now flying as QF1D/24JUN. 5 pax were offloaded from Y and aren't continuing. There doesn't appear to be any offloads from W/J.

 

[jb747]

The QF36 crew are AU B789 crew. They wouldn't operate to LHR.

Of course they could.

In this case it'd be the QF1/2 A388 SIN-LHR/LHR-SIN UK crew that can operate on the QF9/10 as I believe they are dual rated.

And they could in turn be used into Oz on a 787.

But visa free entry into SIN v CGK might have been factored if PAX needed to deplane (to use that horrible American phrase).

This would not have been a consideration, at all. Medlink will tell you the best place to go from a medical point of view, and then, if you can make your aviation perspective align, you go there.

You might be able to do a pilot swap from 35/36, but another source may exist if they’re still using the sims in Singapore. In years past, familiarity with a route was never an issue for QF, because all of the pilots flew everywhere. But, now that they’ve gone basing mad, there would be large sections of an aircraft’s route structure that it’s pilots would never see. There’s some real room for embarassment in that.

 

[Rohan747_300]

The QF36 crew are AU B789 crew. They wouldn't operate to LHR.

In this case it'd be the QF1/2 A388 SIN-LHR/LHR-SIN UK crew that can operate on the QF9/10 as I believe they are dual rated.

I'd be very surprised if the 787 (QF9) crew are dual-rated and current on the 380 - there is such a massive backlog in training and recency at the moment.

 

[Franky]

But visa free entry into SIN v CGK might have been factored if PAX needed to deplane (to use that horrible American phrase). Where’s Tattoo when you need him?

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwidhqa-sdz_AhWJH-wKHTzVAvkQwqsBegQIDhAF&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DUSfKJYZcUmI&usg=AOvVaw0DVKb60o6ri5IAl3xARjiQ&opi=89978449

How about ‘disembark’??? Deplane is as dumb as ’down guage’…

 

[milehighclub]

I'd be very surprised if the 787 (QF9) crew are dual-rated and current on the 380 - there is such a massive backlog in training and recency at the moment.

The London based cabin crew are trained on both A380 and 787 and have been since the 787 was introduced.

 

[jb747]

I'd be very surprised if the 787 (QF9) crew are dual-rated and current on the 380 - there is such a massive backlog in training and recency at the moment.

Cabin crew. Never pilots.

 

[Scozzy]

Nat from Nova Perth was on the flight and was posting on her Instagram story about it. Medical emergency. Person survived due to the divert. She seemed to be in Singapore for a long time before heading to London.