QF93 diverted to Honululu

[birdsville]

Any one know why QF93 suddenly diverted to Honululu last night about 11pm Melb time, just curious...Thanks.

 

[legroom]

Any one know why QF93 suddenly diverted to Honululu last night about 11pm Melb time, just curious...Thanks.

Someone posted while on the tarmac that there was a sick passenger on board.

See the thread "Is there a Dr on the plane?".

Sorry, I cannot link on iPad.

 

[birdsville]

Someone posted while on the tarmac that there was a sick passenger on board.

See the thread "Is there a Dr on the plane?".

Sorry, I cannot link on iPad.

Thanks for that, good place to be ill I spose.

 

[DaveinCanberra]

(My first post here - hi guys) My son just arrived LAX on QF11 and said by email that they took an "unconscious" passenger off first there as well. Apparently bad day for QF in-flight medical emergencies.

 

[docjames]

Seems to be becoming more common (unwell pax on board / diversions due to unwell pax on long haul) - i'd love to know the stats behind this.

I suspect that as we cram ever greater numbers aboard, and with globalization of society, more (previously) unwell people are travelling, and also with greater numbers per aircraft, the odds of someone having something unexpected happen must be higher for that flight (ie. 450 pax travelling for 14hrs to LAX vs 15 pax travelling for 1hr to DBO).

 

[under the radar]

true...the 'law of averages' does apply to a particular 'sector'.... but events like these happen every day on various modes of transport ...but the reporting (public knowledge) of such incidents is very 'selective'...(my mother had a 'medical emergency' whilst driving her car......but it wasnt plastered over the internet!!!).... MY POINT IS..IT CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE ANYTIME!!

 

[samh004]

Seems to be becoming more common (unwell pax on board / diversions due to unwell pax on long haul) - i'd love to know the stats behind this.

I suspect that as we cram ever greater numbers aboard, and with globalization of society, more (previously) unwell people are travelling, and also with greater numbers per aircraft, the odds of someone having something unexpected happen must be higher for that flight (ie. 450 pax travelling for 14hrs to LAX vs 15 pax travelling for 1hr to DBO).

Made me think perhaps it'll get to the stage where every passenger needs compulsory 3rd party (like with a car) incase of a diversion so airlines can recoup the costs, or they wont let you fly. I know many take out travel insurance, and many don't, but that doesn't help the airline

 

[JohnM]

Seems to be becoming more common (unwell pax on board / diversions due to unwell pax on long haul) - i'd love to know the stats behind this.

I suspect that as we cram ever greater numbers aboard, and with globalization of society, more (previously) unwell people are travelling, and also with greater numbers per aircraft, the odds of someone having something unexpected happen must be higher for that flight (ie. 450 pax travelling for 14hrs to LAX vs 15 pax travelling for 1hr to DBO).

Also, perhaps, more older people travelling?

 

[Mwenenzi]

Made me think perhaps it'll get to the stage where every passenger needs compulsory 3rd party (like with a car) in case of a diversion so airlines can recoup the costs, or they wont let you fly. I know many take out travel insurance, and many don't, but that doesn't help the airline

I am not aware of any airline who have claimed for diversion costs due to a medical event. Or a disruptive passenger for that matter. Diversion costs are significant. To me its already a part of the ticket price:- 1 in 1000 (or ?) flights a diversion is needed. Just part of the normal business costs, as are weather related diversions.

 

[mannej]

I am not aware of any airline who have claimed for diversion costs due to a medical event. Or a disruptive passenger for that matter. Diversion costs are significant. To me its already a part of the ticket price:- 1 in 1000 (or ?) flights a diversion is needed. Just part of the normal business costs, as are weather related diversions.

I'm not sure that Qantas has claimed for costs, but I am aware of cases where disruptive pax have been charged for the cost of the diversion.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ranny-punched-passenger-face-asked-quiet.html

As for medical detours, you'd think insurance would cover extra costs?

 

[Mwenenzi]

I'm not sure that Qantas has claimed for costs, but I am aware of cases where disruptive pax have been charged for the cost of the diversion.
Drunken air rage granny punched passenger in face after he asked her to be quiet | Mail Online

As for medical detours, you'd think insurance would cover extra costs?

OK I do now remember that granny !. Wonder if QF got the money.
A lot of people do not have travel insurance, especially for domestic flights. If there was insurances for this, DYKWIA's would be claiming for all manner of things.

Diversions are just part of normal business for an airline IMHO.

 

[legroom]

I'm not sure that Qantas has claimed for costs, but I am aware of cases where disruptive pax have been charged for the cost of the diversion.
Drunken air rage granny punched passenger in face after he asked her to be quiet | Mail Online

As for medical detours, you'd think insurance would cover extra costs?

Were that to be true, only the "whales" can fly as the insurance premiums would be quite expensive.

Alternatively, they would ask us to have a "medical" before issuing a policy.

The recent scholarly article from NEJM showed that it is an uncommon event (1 emergency per 604 commercial flights) with 7.3% of all flights requiring a diversion.

Most would have common sense to not travel when they are unwell.

As for unexpected emergencies (strokes, heart attacks, arrythmias etc...), that may not be possible to predict or prevent prior to travelling.

 

[RooFlyer]

I'm not sure that Qantas has claimed for costs, but I am aware of cases where disruptive pax have been charged for the cost of the diversion.
Drunken air rage granny punched passenger in face after he asked her to be quiet | Mail Online

As for medical detours, you'd think insurance would cover extra costs?

I just checked my Covermore policy. The situation where you become sick on a plane and perhaps become exposed to costs of the diversion isn't mentioned at all, either that they will pay or they won't.

If its because of a pre-existing condition they list as requiring prior assessment, then you are toast of course, but if is an 'out of the blue' condition, the policy is silent (and therefore unlikely to cover) airline diversion costs.

Under 'If you become sick' itonly talks about hotel, car and doctors bills.

 

[Simo]

Duty of care for the airline?????

 

[DeKa]

Sorry, I cannot link on iPad.

You can. If you're using the website, copy and paste the URL.

If you're using the AFF App, tap the post, tap More, tap Copy URL then got to the thread you want to post in (this one) and paste the URL).

 

[sjd]

Great description of a medical emergency by Dr Oliver Sacks, in this Radiolab podcast.

 

[flyingblind]

We were on the plane for 17 hours. Was QF11 delayed? A few planes arrived the sane time. Never spent that long in customs at lax