QFF Extra Luggage Allowance (on non QF-metal)

[timmy-t]

As a SG, I get extra check-in allowance when flying QF.

If I want to fly to Europe via HKG, then under QF's new strategic plans, it won't be on QF metal from HKG to Europe (LHR, etc). So, if I have had a stop/(shop)-over in HKG, and then take a QF codeshare flight to LHR on BA metal, I'll no longer get the extra baggage allowance.... Is this correct?

(I had this happen to me in NAN last week. I was flying on FJ metal, but on a QF ticket. They stung me for excess baggage despite being SG (OW Sapphire)).
:evil:

It would be nice if all OW partners had the same excess luggage rules (for consistency at least)

Thoughts..?

 

[markis10]

The operating carriers baggage applies I am afraid.

 

[timmy-t]

Exactly!

So now there will be another way that our Status is eroded. (i.e. the # of long haul QF flights reducing will mean the extra baggage allowance will be almost worthless - unless you are flying LHR-SIN-Aust, or LAX-Aust...

Surely they should be working something out with their code-share partners...?

 

[markis10]

Exactly!

So now there will be another way that our Status is eroded. (i.e. the # of long haul QF flights reducing will mean the extra baggage allowance will be almost worthless - unless you are flying LHR-SIN-Aust, or LAX-Aust...

Surely they should be working something out with their code-share partners...?

Thats the situation at present however with the changes to the Joint Services Agreement needed to facilitate last weeks news, its extremely likely that BA and QF will allow the QF baggage allowances for elite status members to apply. Regardless of the JSA, it would be nice to see QF negotiate with BA like AA and IB have done to get extra allowances:

British Airways Gold and Silver Executive Club members, American Airlines Executive Platinum and Platinum members and Iberia Plus Platinum and Plus Gold members can check in 2 bags in all cabins, on all routes, unless the cabin allowance is greater.
British Airways Gold and Silver Executive Club members, American Airlines Executive Platinum and Iberia Plus Platinum members will be exempt from the heavy bag charge for bags weighing between 23kg and 32kg.
This applies to all passengers travelling on the same booking.

 

[serfty]

The operating carriers baggage applies I am afraid.

If ticketed after April 1 2011, then the MSC rules apply.

More here: http://www.australianfrequentflyer....allowances-interlining-become-more-29204.html

So, except for bookings who ultimate ticketed origin or destination is a U.S. point then the baggage allowance of the operating MSC applies for each "interline Journey".

Note that with the U.S.A. exception the MSC rule relates to the Marketing carrier and the allowance that applies to the first check-in applies to the entire ticket.

 

[PlutekPlutek]

Look at Finnair? They fly to HKG and LHR and as a QF Silver or higher you are allowed a second 23kg bag. You can also avoid a transfer at Heathrow unless that is your final destination.

As a SG, I get extra check-in allowance when flying QF.

If I want to fly to Europe via HKG, then under QF's new strategic plans, it won't be on QF metal from HKG to Europe (LHR, etc). So, if I have had a stop/(shop)-over in HKG, and then take a QF codeshare flight to LHR on BA metal, I'll no longer get the extra baggage allowance.... Is this correct?

(I had this happen to me in NAN last week. I was flying on FJ metal, but on a QF ticket. They stung me for excess baggage despite being SG (OW Sapphire)).
:evil:

It would be nice if all OW partners had the same excess luggage rules (for consistency at least)

Thoughts..?

 

[PlutekPlutek]

If ticketed after April 1 2011, then the MSC rules apply.

More here: http://www.australianfrequentflyer....allowances-interlining-become-more-29204.html

So, except for bookings who ultimate ticketed origin or destination is a U.S. point then the baggage allowance of the operating MSC applies for each "interline Journey".

Note that with the U.S.A. exception the MSC rule relates to the Marketing carrier and the allowance that applies to the first check-in applies to the entire ticket.

MSC rules apply to Europe as long as you are not doing a 'proper' stop along the way, ie a day or two shopping (at least that is Cathay's policy - if you look at their sample tables on how they determine the MSC from Aus to Europe via HKG it says in small print - 'no stop over'), therefore when flying Cathay and BA or Finnair to Europe, individual carriers rules apply if you do a stopover in HKG or the MSC rules apply if you do not. MSC will then be calculated as the carrier between HKG and Europe. I just returned from an award trip to Europe with Cathay/Finnair/Qf with stopovers in Hong Kong, Gelsinki, Warsaw and Bangkok and it was interesting trying to juggle the baggage allowances as they were all different and no MSC were applicable. In Cathay I had a 20 (or 23) kg allowance, Finnair had 2 * 23 kg and QF has 32kg as I am a QF silver.Finnair is a really good option to Europe if you are higher than bronze status but if you will do a stopover then you may have to abide by the carriers rule (either CX or QF) to HKG. Do all your shopping on the way to Europe and don't do any stopovers on the way back and you can bring back quite a lot.

 

[serfty]

MSC rules apply to Europe as long as you are not doing a 'proper' stop along the way, ie a day or two shopping (at least that is Cathay's policy -...

I guess that's what an "interline Journey" is.

Of course it is DIFFERENT for USA itineraries where the allowance that applies to the first check-in applies to the entire ticket - irrespective of stopover.

 

[timmy-t]

I guess that's what an "interline Journey" is.

Of course it is DIFFERENT for USA itineraries where the allowance that applies to the first check-in applies to the entire ticket - irrespective of stopover.

Does that mean that if you want to go RTW, it's better to fly to USA first?

 

[serfty]

Does that mean that if you want to go RTW, it's better to fly to USA first?

It depends on the product and any cost/benefit in reation to purhcase cost/luggage.

Note the LONEx fares have a minimum luggage allowance of 2 x 23Kg bags built into the fare basis irrespective of the country of origin or carrier at check-in.