Quirky Airport Information

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Hi Cocitus23
Thanks for starting this thread and keeping it going.
Regarding OOL, I do not know about the jurisdiction issues but I believe the consortium owning the Queensland Airports Limited has its business of OOL as Queensland so employees are under QLD statutes.
However this got me thinking about an airport that I had been to which I thought was in two countries, I am in fact wrong about this. The airport? EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg (IATA: MLH, BSL, EAP, ICAO: LFSB, LSZM)[SUP][[/SUP]:confused:
Yes 2 or 3 airport codes for the same airport.
This airport in located in France, near the Swiss border but is jointly owned and operated by the two countries via a Treaty. From wikipedia here is an explanation for the multiple codes.
The airport building is split into two separate sections – Swiss and French. Though the whole airport is on French soil and under French jurisdiction, the Swiss authorities have the authority to apply Swiss laws regarding customs, medical services and police work in the Swiss section, including the customs road connecting Basel with the airport. However, French police is allowed to execute random checks in the Swiss section as well. With Switzerland joining the Schengen Treaty in March 2009, the air side was rearranged to include a Schengen and non-Schengen zone. Travellers departing from the airport into non-Schengen countries may receive either the Swiss or the French passport stamp, according to their entry choice.
Due to its international status, EuroAirport has three IATA airport codes: BSL (Basel) is the Swiss code, MLH (Mulhouse) is the French code and EAP (EuroAirport) is the nutral code. The ICAO airport code is: LFSB, sometimes LSZM is used to designate the Swiss airport
Links for history and other information.
Euroairport.com
wikipedia.com
 
I put in BVI initially because that's where I was the day before going to the Dig Tree which we were talking about. But it's also a classic for having the strip so close to the town - especially the pub ;).
 
However this got me thinking about an airport that I had been to which I thought was in two countries, I am in fact wrong about this. The airport? EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg (IATA: MLH, BSL, EAP, ICAO: LFSB, LSZM)[SUP][[/SUP]:confused:
Yes 2 or 3 airport codes for the same airport.
This airport in located in France, near the Swiss border but is jointly owned and operated by the two countries via a Treaty. From wikipedia here is an explanation for the multiple codes.

Thanks Altair. The BSL/MLH/EAP situation is quite well known, but not unique. It reminded me of my visit to Geneva, because the airport (GVA) has a French part to the terminal as well, including its own dedicated gates, access road and car park, directly connected to the French territory (which begins just on the other side of the runway), so airlines can offer domestic flights from i.e. Paris to Geneva. I was wondering what they did with the area since the Swiss joined Schengen, but according to Wikipedia it still exists:

Before Switzerland's integration into the Schengen Area in 2008, Pier F, also known as the French Sector, was used exclusively for passengers arriving from, or departing to destinations in France. It has two gates with jet bridges and four bus gates. The French Sector exists as a stipulation of an agreement between France and the Canton of Geneva dating from the 1960s, and enables travel between the neighboring French region of the Pays de Gex and the airport while avoiding Swiss territory and customs. The French Sector area still exists for passengers arriving from French destinations who wish to exit directly to French territory and avoid Swiss customs controls, although passport control and immigration checks have been dropped as part of the Schengen Treaty.[SUP][7][/SUP]

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Airport
 
The Saga of Mirabel (YMX)
For much of the 70s I lived in Montreal. The story of its second airport, Mirabel, is a salutary lesson for planners of Badgery’s Creek.

Montreal (population about 4 million) had long been served by Dorval Airport (YUL), about 10 km from downtown. Suburbia had surrounded Dorval, there were endless complaints about airport noise, and there were serious concerns that the airport lacked space for projected growth. So vast areas of land (some 400 square kilometres, in fact) were bought up 55 km to the NW of the city for a second airport, Mirabel, which could never be built out. (Is this sounding a bit like Sydney?)

The airport opened in October 1975, in time for the Montreal Olympics the following year. The government immediately decreed that all international flights were to use Mirabel, while domestic (and US) flights would continue to use Dorval. And so it was for 22 years. However, Mirabel’s distant location, the lack of adequate transport links to urban centres and the continued operation of domestic flights from Dorval made Mirabel very unpopular with travellers and airlines. Public pressure in support of Dorval prevented its planned closure. The airlines, not wanting to bear the cost of twin operations at two airports, progressively dumped Montreal as a port of entry in favour of Toronto.

Passenger numbers through Mirabel gradually dwindled, until finally all passenger operations ceased in October 2004, just 29 years after opening. It is now strictly a cargo airport. In the meantime Dorval has been re-vamped and continues as Montreal’s sole passenger airport.

So what happens at Mirabel now, apart from the cargo planes? Well, the taxiways are used for NASCAR and drag racing. The terminal was used as a film and TV set, but this didn’t pay the maintenance bills, so last year a $15 million contract was signed for the demolition of both the terminal and the multi-storey car parks. Demolition is in progress as we speak.
I don’t pretend that the transition from one to two airports is simple. Somehow New York and London have managed it. But surely Mirabel provides a case study of what not to do.
 
Thanks, artemis. Very kind of you. But don't encourage me too much, or I'll regale you with more stories. As a matter of fact, you encouraged me to scan through my list of 184 airports, and as it happened, a few stories did come to mind. So here's the first: Baggage collection at Taolagnaro (FTU).
You know, we continually hear people complaining about baggage going astray. My own experience has been quite different. I am amazed by how often it does not go astray. Oh, sure, I have had a couple of instances of delayed bags, but really quite infrequently. People fear what goes on behind the scenes, once the bags disappear on the conveyor and until they reappear onto the carousel. But it has always seemed to me that the real point of vulnerability is after they hit the carousel. They are just so exposed to being stolen by organised thieves. Does this ever happen? I don't know. The only instance I can remember of a major airport authority actively guarding against this was once at LGA when egress from the carousel area was restricted by a narrow gate where a guy was checking the baggage stubs against the tags. But nothing quite prepared me for FTU, where I imagine that very few of you have ever been. OK, so where is it? It's at the very south-eastern corner of Madagascar. If you cannot pronounce the name, don't worry. It is better known by its old French name of Fort Dauphin. (Exquisite area, by the way - beautiful beaches, backed by sand dune country just crying out for links golf courses, say like Barnbougle or The Dunes. Abject poverty abounds, however.)
A few years back I had occasion on about 5 - 6 times to take the flight down there from TNR, at the Madagascan capital of Antananarivo (Say that one out loud and in a hurry! Fortunately, they just abbreviate it to "Tana"). The flight takes about an hour, but be prepared to take about double that to collect your bag. Here's the system. The 100 or so passengers are ushered into the "baggage collection hall" where no bags are visible. There is a counter along the side wall, and behind that a single door to the next room. After a wait an official looking local gentleman, complete with peaked cap, appears carrying one bag. He places it on the counter, and calls out loud, in French, the number on the tag. The lucky owner steps forward, produces his stub, which the official then very deliberately and unhurriedly verifies. The bag is handed over and a receipt is signed. The official then disappears to retrieve the next bag. There may, or may not, be an unexplained delay before his reappearance.
Of course, many of the passengers were members of family or business groups, with the result that none of the group could leave until the last of the group had been served. The result is that many (most?) passengers were hanging around until the circus was complete.
At least no-one had their bags stolen.
Despite this, I always enjoyed my visits to FTU, in a funny way. It sure helps to speak French, though, because no-one speaks English.

Cocitus23
 
Speaking of baggage collection a number of years ago I was regularly flying in and out of Caracas. There the process was you picked up your bag then went to a queue that went to a single gate. An armed official then check your luggage tag and ensured it was your bag. You then stepped up to the gate which had two lights above it, red and green.

There was a button on the gate which you pushed and the red and green lights started alternating for about 15 seconds. If green came up the gate opened and off you went. If it came up red then a number of armed people would come over take you aside and thoroughly search you and your bags. The sequence was totally random.
 
Thanks for that, Walrus1948. I love it. So South American, where unfortunately my travels have been quite limited.

May I switch continents now, and tell you a story from the steppes of Central Asia?

Footy on the tarmac at OMS

One of my more bizarre flight itineraries ran VVO – HTA – OMS – SVO. Now I expect that will create quite a few puzzled, creased brows, even from some of our most experienced members. Let me remove the puzzlement. It’s Vladivostok – Chita – Omsk – Moscow. This was in July 1990. The Cold War was not yet buried, but it was definitely in its death throes. Gorbachev was still in power; glasnost and perestroika were all the go. Two days later, at the 28[SUP]th[/SUP] (and last, as it eventuated) congress of the Communist Party in the Kremlin, Boris Yeltsin broke ranks and stormed out of the Party.
So what was this journey from one extremity of Russia to the other all about? I (along with about 150 others) was representing you, my fellow Australians, at a mighty jamboree called the Australian Trade Fair, first In Vladivostok then a follow-up by about half of us in Moscow. It was a direct outcome of Gorby opening up the Russian economy to the world. On the Australian side, all sorts of bods, from Simon Crean (then Minister for Trade), bureaucrats from whatever the forerunner of DFAT was called, and people from corporate Australia, like myself, were part of the entourage.

Aeroflot provided the charter to carry us over seven time zones, a journey through extended night. What a wreck of a plane it was! My memories include a carpet runner down the aisle quite detached from the floor and lying higgledy-piggledy and rumbled; graffiti on the walls; the seat back in front of me with a broken recline mechanism, so that it could be flipped from flat onto the seat or back onto my lap. Fortunately there was no-one assigned to the seat, so I flipped it forward and could put my legs up onto it. Then when meal time came, the flight attendant, in her Stalinist-style uniform, announced apologetically that the oven in the galley had broken down, but we were welcome to take a frozen beef stroganoff and eat it once it had thawed.

The aircraft cannot have had much range, because we had to land for refuelling at Chita and Omsk, both in the Siberian vastness. All went fairly efficiently at Chita, but at Omsk we taxied to a holding area distant from the terminal, where we waited . . . and waited. The darkness was alleviated by the glow from gas flares from the adjacent oil refinery. Then the pilot informed us that the refueller had apparently forgotten that he was on duty, so he, the pilot, would have to commandeer an airport truck, drive into town and awaken the good man from his slumber. In the meantime, we would be free to get off the plane to stretch our legs, but unfortunately there were no stairs, so we would have to use the chain ladder. If all this seems strange, and very Russian, what followed was even stranger, and very Australian.

One fellow – I think he was from the Australian Wheat Board, but I’m not sure – announced that he happened to have his footy in his carry-on baggage, and that anyone who felt so inclined would be welcome to join in some kick-to-kick on the tarmac. Looking back, it boggles my mind why a grown business man would want to keep his Sherrin with him across Siberia, or anywhere for that matter. Maybe it was a substitute teddy bear. In any case, it was a most fortuitous possession, because soon a tribe of us were running around in the half light like over-grown school boys, booting the footy, laughing and hollering such inanities as “Up there Cazaly” and “Go ‘Pies” (You may be assured that this latter cry did not pass from the lips of Cocitus23.)

The experience was made even more surreal by the fact that the airport was shared with the Soviet Air Force, and about every ten minutes a fighter jet would go screaming along the runway with flames shooting from its rear-end.
 
The Saga of Mirabel (YMX)
For much of the 70s I lived in Montreal. The story of its second airport, Mirabel, is a salutary lesson for planners of Badgery’s Creek.

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Thanks for the thread and stories Cocitus23. :) I lived in Quebec (w-a-a-a-a-y north) for a year in the early 1990s and endured the horror that was Mirabel. Taber-nac !

And speaking of luggage carousels and experiences thereof, I give you OCC - Coca, eastern Ecuador. It was just a small regional town but has boomed with oil and tourism. Unfortunately the airport didn't keep up, although they are building a brand new terminal right now.

So here's luggage retrieval at OCC (there's about another 50 pax out of shot, to the right):

OCC.jpg

OK, no carousel, just a shelf on the side of the terminal shed where the bags are dumped; aircraft mainly A320 size. Those at the front can get their bags, if they appear. Those behind can't. If too many bags belonging to those behind are put on the shelf, they stay there and then there is no room for other bags.

Process stops until those at the rear get sick of waiting and push through.
 
Thanks, Robd. You flatter me. No, I am not, and never was, a history teacher, although I must say that I find the idea very appealing. I am now retired after a lifetime as . . . wait for it . . . a civil engineer. Designing and constructing dams was my long shot.

Cocitus23.
My husband is also a retired civil engineer (Traffic and Safety) whose dream job was to be a History teacher.
 
Hey, RooFlyer, I just love your "Taber-nac" exclamation, the use of italics giving it just the correct intonation. It's a pity that most of the AFF readership just won't appreciate it.

Where were you way north in Quebec in the 1990s? Raglin? I spent some years on Phase 1 of the La Grande development (Caniapiscau, LG4, LG3, LG2) so know the area quite well. Later on 3 years on the Diavik diamond project in NWT. And where are you in Tassie? I had ten years there on the Mersey-Forth days, also Gordon.

Cocitus23.
 
I was at Chibougamou doing mining exploration, for a year. Actually, its not as far north as I recall!! Although at the time my main impression was that it wasn't too far south of the Distant Early Warning (DEW) Line, which would have tracked nukes coming across the pole from Russia, so it seemed way up there. It was the time that the Meech Lake Accord ultimately failed and Anglos were not very welcome. When I finally drove out of town, I didn't look in the rear vision mirror.

I did learn quite a bit of Quebequois, including how to swear fluently and to get a taste for good quality maple syrup.

Today I hang out on the east coast of Tasmania but still travel to western Canada frequently for work (mining/management). A mate of mine has a good gig at the moment consulting to the Hydro here in Tas showing them how the rock bolts in the caverns housing the early turbine sets are rusted out! (not the Gordon scheme).

Chibougamau.jpg
 
I think there was once a plan to extend this strip to take jets direct from CNS or BNE, but the water is simply too deep on either end to make it economic.

Munda Airport is currently in the process of being designated as an alternate airport, this may end up with international flights occurring from Australia, a big boost to Solomon Islands tourism if it eventuates.
 
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Chaos at YHZ

So, everyone remembers where they were on 11 September 2001. My day started boarding an AC aircraft at Toronto (YYZ), to head to Halifax (YHZ) with my wife so that we could both enjoy a relaxing week in Canada's smallest province, Prince Edward Island. The journey started quite normally, but nearing our destination the pilot announced that there might be some delays at Halifax because of an unprecedented amount of traffic at YHZ following "a security incident". Actually, we got down without too much trouble, but the airport was absolutely abuzz with activity. We learned just the basics: that there had been an attack on the World Trade Centre in New York by hijacked aircraft; that US air space had shut down; that Canada had agreed to receive all aircraft en route to USA; and that YHZ would be a key focus of that exercise.

Thank goodness, I had a rental car booked, which we picked up and escaped the scene as quickly as we could. We headed straight for Prince Edward Island (a delightful spot if any of you ever have the chance) and spent the day playing golf at Mill River. Great course. But of course, thoughts of events in New York dominated our thinking, and that evening we simply couldn't believe the horror and magnitude of it all. Meanwhile, back at YHZ the trans-Atlantic flights kept rolling in, until eventually there were 47 unexpected aircraft crowding the runways and some 8,000 passengers to be processed, fed and accommodated. Such scenes were replicated at other airports across Canada, although not quite to the same extent as at YHZ. In all, Canada received 238 unexpected aircraft and 33,000 visitors on that day. Many Canadian homes opened their doors to receive grateful strangers into their guest rooms.

We were fortunate to get in and out of there just minutes before it would have been an impossibility. I wonder if any readers were among the 33,000. Or were any of you in the air on domestic flights within USA at the time the skies were closed?

Cocitus23.
 
I wasn't in the US, but I was in BDB. That same week Ansett was looking to be in big trouble and by the time I got to Gympie on the roadshow we were doing, I felt it would be a good idea to pull my BNE-xMEL-PER flight forward by a day. High-tailed it to BNE that afternoon and made it onto the last AN flight MEL-PER. Ansett went bust midnight MEL time while we were in the air.
 
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Gisborne Airport has a railine across its runway, although I think the line has been shut since 2013 but the tracks are still there.

Gisborne Airport (IATA: GIS, ICAO: NZGS) is a regional airport on the outskirts of Gisborne on the East Coast of the North Island of New Zealand. Gisborne Airport is one of the few airports in the world that has a railway line, the Palmerston North - Gisborne Line, crossing the main runway. The airport has a single terminal with two tarmac gates.
Entry from wikipedia.org
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Article about the above Gruman Avenger waiting for the train to pass is at the Gisborne Hearld blog post #24.
 
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