RTW Revenue Tickets

May I ask approx cost of *A RTW your EX: Japan? Looking @ doing the same.

Star Alliance have total km bands for their 16 sector RTW, rather than 'continents' of OW.

Edit - the following all for Business class

Japan-Japan BASE price (before carrier charges and airport taxes etc) is about $7.5K for 29,000 miles, and $10K for 39,000 miles (Australia to Australia 39K itinerary was going to be about $14.5K!!). There is a 34,000 miles band, but I didn't get a price on that.

I ended up with a 37,600 mile itinerary for about $13K all up, starting at KIX and ending at HND. Unfortunately it seems that most of my airlines (7 in total) impose pretty hefty carrier charges :(. Main reason I went with *A this time was that I am doing a fair bit of flying internal Europe and doing Canada domestic, as I can't be bothered renewing my B1/B2 visa for the USA, so I can't go there. Also, I like accumulating KrisFlyer miles at the moment. :)

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Oneworld also has a distance based RTW fare available, which allows travel on a handful of non oneworld members.

26000, 29000, 34000 and 39000 mile options available, however business class can only book the 26k and 34k bands (though the 26k band books into I instead of D and isn't available in all markets)
You can use Pacific Airlines, Aer Lingus, Fiji Airways, Bangkok Airways. WestJet and Jetstar (AU, Asia and Japan) in addition to the full oneworld members.

The 34,000 mile option (xGLOB34) has the same base fare as the 4 continent (xONE4) fare. ~8k AUD ex-JP. The ex-AU base fare for a DONE4/DGLOB34 is $15k.

My first RTW trip in 2006 was an LGLOB29 in order to use JL (which didn't join oneworld until the following year).
 
The 34,000 mile option (xGLOB34) has the same base fare as the 4 continent (xONE4) fare. ~8k AUD
Pardon my ignorance but who do we approach to book the DONE4 option ex-Japan , will that be JAL or can we contact any one world partners. Thanks
 
Pardon my ignorance but who do we approach to book the DONE4 option ex-Japan , will that be JAL or can we contact any one world partners. Thanks
It used to be hard to do that (having to find an agent in Japan to book with remotely), but rule changes around 2017 made it so that any agent anywhere can book an ex-JP DONE4.

(an old rule charged the higher fare of country of sale or country of departure. During that period, if you booked a cheaper ex-JP fare fare via an AU based agent, you'd paid the AU price)
 
Did you book this yourself or through a TA?
We havent done this in years. If we did book, can I go onto the oneworld explorer site and choose my "preferred airline" to get AA? We had a good TA then, but she has gone. The one I spoke to last week didnt know that starting in different countries could be a lot cheaper

How do I then get QF points. Is it automatically credited with ff number?

If we start in Japan, can we fly to our home port and not use the last connection? Or is there a rule against this?

Thanks for help

There is a dedicated thread for the oneworld Explorer product: Oneworld Explorer ticketing

The product is very complicated and FlyerTalk evidence suggests few oneworld staff understand it. American's RTW desk, as mentioned, is very useful, but ...

Pardon my ignorance but who do we approach to book the DONE4 option ex-Japan , will that be JAL or can we contact any one world partners. Thanks

call AA in Dallas at the RTW desk via skype +18002473247

A recent report on FlyerTalk suggests AA may be cracking down on booking xONEx tickets, except for top tier AA elites.

The online tool is notoriously useless.
 
I had absolutely no problem with the AA RTW desk with my recent bookings .....maybe because I know most of the desk staff as I've been using them for over 15 years and I'm only a QF WP Emerald and have no status with AA
 
this years 16 sector DONE4 ex HND was just over $10K incl taxes whilst next years 10 sector DONE4 ex HND was $9900 incl taxes

Ex-Japan you can be as low as mid and even low 9k AUD even for 16 segments. Unfortunately booking via the AA desk requires at least one overwater to be AA and that can be expensive due to the fuel fines that AA charges.
 
I am looking at trip starting in Tokyo. Either starting with HND-JFK on AA.
if needed for AA desk, or NRT-BOS if I can fly JL
NRT-BOS-DFW-YVR-LHR-ARN-CAI-DOH-DPS-HKG-KUL-SIN-MEL-AKL-SYD-NRT

I am getting an invalid message in following
DOH-DPS, DPS-HKG HKG-KUL KUL-SIN
Your trip may include two stopovers over 24 hours in the continent where your journey started. If your itinerary includes both of these in your country of origin, one must be outbound and the other inbound. Additional stopovers under 24 hours are permitted in your itinerary. Please select a different date or flight.

What exactly does this mean and can I visit these places in Asia?
 
What exactly does this mean and can I visit these places in Asia?

The fare only allows two 'stopovers' (>24hrs) in the Asian 'continent', as it is the 'continent' you started in (Asia/Japan). You can touch the other places too, but only for <24 hrs.

If you need to stop at DPS, HKG, KUL and SIN, solution might be to buy/nest a separate ticket (say, DPS-KUL-HKG-DPS) within the main ticket, which would go DOH-DPS-SIN-MEL etc.
 
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@kiwitripper64 I should have said in my post above that I'm just interpreting from what you quoted of the message, :) but it appears to be the case.

I always encourage to use a good (not on-line) travel agent for these types of fares; they can do a lot that we mere mortals can't (such as talk direct to the airlines if any issues, inconsistencies etc).
 
@kiwitripper64 I should have said in my post above that I'm just interpreting from what you quoted of the message, :) but it appears to be the case.

I always encourage to use a good (not on-line) travel agent for these types of fares; they can do a lot that we mere mortals can't (such as talk direct to the airlines if any issues, inconsistencies etc).
 
@kiwitripper64 I should have said in my post above that I'm just interpreting from what you quoted of the message, :) but it appears to be the case.

I always encourage to use a good (not on-line) travel agent for these types of fares; they can do a lot that we mere mortals can't (such as talk direct to the airlines if any issues, inconsistencies etc).
The problem is a good TA. One moved, 1 retired and the latest one double charged us and doesn’t think it makes any difference where you start RWT from.
I have tried your suggestion and only used SIN on return. It seems to like that. So I am changing the start a little.
Thanks for the help, progress is slowly being made
 
An update on our RTW.
It seems harder to book than previously
The Oneworld booking tool is a travesty. It has error messages that disappear if you keep going, but then comes up with more rule violations that are no explained.
The booking site tells us to use Jetstar asia and has the flight number. As the community have pointed out, jetstar and jetstar asia are not allowed.
Using google flights or the airlines website to find flights has limitations. I found several flights that we were not allowed to book as the DONE4 had no D class.
And on the subject of seat availability, we found the following
Internal USA flight in May 2024. No D class, lots of business class, but we had to take the economy ticket with "the hope of standby upgrade"
Trans-Atlantic. No D class availability and you are not allowed to go economy in this sector.
Qantas can be helpful. But it took 3 phone calls.
Call 1. This is difficult and I will call you back........ no reply
Call 2. Next day. This is impossible, there are no flights for 2 weeks SYD-YVR in April ???????
There was no explanation or alternative, just NO.
Call 3 Desperation call as seen below
I also skyped AA helpdesk 1 800 247 3427 as my preferred itinerary was HND-HND. The helpline was really helpful, very enthusiastic but ended up unable to come up with a way I could have the ex japan trip and fly with Mrs KT.

We needed 2 different start dates and then we will meet up on flight 3 for the rest of the trip. We finally thought we had the booking engine sorted, both itineraries matched our shared sector, then I booked mine and Mrs KT tried. She was shown the error message page. After a talk with QF it seems I had booked the only D ticket on 2 flights that couldnt be flown in Y.

With desperation we rang Qantas again. We had an amazing helpdesk person who understood why we did this, what went wrong and how to search for alternatives to fix. This was a long call, lots of time on hold to check, but really helpful and we have a solution. We had to use different cities from BGI-ARN, but we have confirmed bookings.

My take home advice.
Book early. Just because a flight has seats, doesn't mean it has OWE seats.
The search engine is a good start, but it has errors.
I thought this would be easier, and was caught out on a number of flights, especially trying to match 2 people for flight 3-15. I want my old travel agent back, but they hav long gone.
I was lucky the final Qantas call solved this or I would have been in intense trouble
Thanks to everyone in the forums for help and advice
 
How do we book Star Alliance RTW?

Again, best through a good travel agent. I have one booked for next year. Their 'booking/planning tool' is the same, or worse than OW's; a TA can get around that.

BTW for anyone planning an itinerary - have a look at Flight Connections to see who flies on what routes, when. You can select for airline, and also alliance if you have the Pro version.

I get the flights I want, then give it all to the TA who irons out the wrinkles, advises on code shares etc.

 

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