Security Incident on JetStar Flight at AVV

[AIRwin]

What's the third busiest?.

Essendon?

 

[Gold Member]

A 17 year old would normally be dealt with by the Children's Court for lesser offences. However this is a more serious matter.

And yet this darling 17yo will be back on the streets in no time. Revolving door at its finest.

Our legal system lacks the spine and balls required to enforce justice.

 

[Franky]

Reminds me of HMAS Penguin, a military facility in Sydney which is protected by private security.

One time I was supposed to be there at the hospital. I just drove in to the gate. Said which way to the hospital. They let me in no ID needed, no questions asked.

Security is lax in many places. Even the scanners at airport miss important contraband from time to time.

Don't get me started on security screening at regional airports..

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I served at Penguin twice, and I can say that when I did, with Naval Police at the gate, you would not have gotten thru….

 

[drron]

What's the third busiest?..
.....

Precedent for 1C passengers?

On JQ reserved for burly shearers or night club bouncers.

 

[Balad2005]

And yet this darling 17yo will be back on the streets in no time. Revolving door at its finest.

Our legal system lacks the spine and balls required to enforce justice.

The abc web site said he had a shotgun and got in via a hole in the fence .The Avalon airshow starts od 25 March , hope security is ramped up by then.

 

[Quickstatus]

Naval Police at the gate

Yes. I was expecting same but hasnot been that for many years. It's all "protected" by the similar to the companies that does airport screening

 

[gaz0303]

It’s good to see some passengers respond to a threat appropriately and don’t just reach for their phone to film their own demise. Incident reported this week with a man trying to open a door inflight, video shows a female passenger jumping over a male with phone to help stop the man opening the door.

 

[jase05]

Yes. I was expecting same but hasnot been that for many years. It's all "protected" by the similar to the companies that does airport screening

Yep, I regularly visit numerous bases and all private security now

 

[Quickstatus]

all private security now

Maybe the relevant Minister can get them to also patrol the Coral Sea

 

[jb747]

I wonder if this is in part a consequence of the ‘security’ that we all see as theatre. Money spent putting on the show, can’t be spent on actual security.

 

[kangarooflyer88]

A security incident seems to have occurred at a major Melbourne airport, Avalon (AVV) with a teenager in high-vis carrying various tools, some of which may be illegal at airports as well as Australia more generally, alleged to have breached security at the airport by going through a cut fence on the perimeter and attempting to board a JetStar flight to Sydney. Fortunately the pilot and passengers intervened before this security incident became something worse than a breach:

Avalon Airport won't explain security breach that led to loaded shotgun incident

Questions are raised over how a 17-year-old boy was able to evade security at Avalon Airport and board a flight with a loaded shotgun, in a breach one aviation security expert described as "unacceptable".

www.abc.net.au

The optimist in me is thinking perhaps this wasn't a security incident at all, but rather yet another cost cutting measure by Vanessa Hudson at Qantas. After all, why bother hiring expensive mechanics to perform maintenance on a plane when a teenager with a shotgun can get the job done.

But I think this begs a question about the security of airports in Australia and JetStar flights more specifically.

-RooFlyer88

 

[jakeseven7]

Well done to all involved subduing this person.

 

[kangarooflyer88]

And yet this darling 17yo will be back on the streets in no time. Revolving door at its finest.

I highly doubt someone who has violated commonwealth law is going to get a slap on the wrist here. Presumably this whole thing will be tried in Federal court, where I suspect judges will be less lenient than what you would find in local court.

The abc web site said he had a shotgun and got in via a hole in the fence .

Is it safe to assume that they weren't a JQ employee? Wouldn't surprise me if shotgun is the new spanner!

It’s good to see some passengers respond to a threat appropriately and don’t just reach for their phone to film their own demise.

It surprises me that people would cower in such situations. I mean if your life is on the line is your first instinct really to pick up your phone and start recording or to run away? And we see what happens, one only look at the Bondi security incident last year, one has to wonder how many lives could have been saved if someone confronted the attacker.

-RooFlyer88

 

[dylarr]

But I think this begs a question about the security of airports in Australia and JetStar flights more specifically.

Why Jetstar flights specifically?

From the airline’s perspective, I think the actions of the crew (along with the passengers) yesterday demonstrated an exceptional level of competence.

The security of the airport, not so much.

 

[drron]

I highly doubt someone who has violated commonwealth law is going to get a slap on the wrist here. Presumably this whole thing will be tried in Federal court, where I suspect judges will be less lenient than what you would find in local court.

Is it safe to assume that they weren't a JQ employee? Wouldn't surprise me if shotgun is the new spanner!

It surprises me that people would cower in such situations. I mean if your life is on the line is your first instinct really to pick up your phone and start recording or to run away? And we see what happens, one only look at the Bondi security incident last year, one has to wonder how many lives could have been saved if someone confronted the attacker.

-RooFlyer88

But one security guy did and was killed. Unfortunately no one helped the poor guy.

 

[Duffa]

Barry deserves a lifetime Jetstar gold pass.
The poor boy needs mental health help. I'd guess autism or a psychosis and will put money on that he won't go to prison because that is not where he needs to be. Show some compassion AFF!

 

[Franky]

But one security guy did and was killed. Unfortunately no one helped the poor guy.

Though thanks to the female DSGT who heard of the incident on her radio, and being close by, took the appropriate action which likely saved more lives...

 

[RooFlyer]

Story in the Oz online

* no Federal police and no Victorian state police at the airport (usual situation apparently). Responders had to come from the nearest station about 9 km away.

* he also claimed to have bombs in his bags

* stole guns earlier on and drove to the airport under a learners permit

 

[jrfsp]

Avalon certainly isn’t a “major Melbourne airport” it’s a regional airport at best, there’s a handful of flights a day. Unlike most regional airports Avalon covers a large land area with lots of commercial activities around the airport, finding a way through to airside really wouldn’t be difficult.

It’s not unusual for no police to be present at the smaller airports - this might be rethought now - or at least changed to cover flight times.

Linfox might want a few more security guards.

 

[kookaburra75]

I've been watching this as it's been unfolding, and there is a lot to unpack in terms of the actions of the crew and passengers, Avalon security, and of course the motivations of the individual. I think a lot will be learned from it, although how well those lessons are implemented is the concern for me