Should WP riff-raff be banned from the business lounges?

[russ]

As a frequent domestic business traveller, I am am disappointed that I often need to wait behind a bunch of red e-deal-toting splice-eating WP riff-raff at the buffet and the bar.

Qantas doesn't let them sit in business class section of the aircraft without a deduction of points, or, deity forbid, defile the forward toilet with their bottoms, so why does Qantas let them into the business lounge willy-nilly?

There is a perfectly acceptable QP next door where the WPs can sit and recheck their seats at T-80, T-79, T-78 etc or whatever they do.

If QP wishes to continue to charge a premium for its business class passengers, it needs to get rid of the Holiday Inn-staying, taxi-using crowd and provide a true business class lounge for business class passengers.

 

[markis10]

Its only been a recent addition to the benefits of flying business that you get access to any lounge when flying Domestic, so in fact its welcome to our world Mr Business Traveller, not the other way around .

 

[straitman]

As a frequent domestic business traveller, I am am disappointed that I often need to wait behind a bunch of red e-deal-toting splice-eating WP riff-raff at the buffet and the bar.

I find it interesting that you define the top (small) percentage of FF as riff-raff :!:

Qantas doesn't let them sit in business class section of the aircraft without a deduction of points, or, deity forbid, defile the forward toilet with their bottoms, so why does Qantas let them into the business lounge willy-nilly?

Irrelevant IMHO.

There is a perfectly acceptable QP next door where the WPs can sit and recheck their seats at T-80, T-79, T-78 etc or whatever they do.

To use that logic you may as well get rid of the business lounges all together, or at the very least make them smaller and the QPs larger. You then end up with the same situation you are complaining about.

If QP wishes to continue to charge a premium for its business class passengers, it needs to get rid of the Holiday Inn-staying, taxi-using crowd and provide a true business class lounge for business class passengers.

That's funny :!:

I read this thread as a wind up that will fire up a few people and achieve very little :!:

 

[FuzzyAUS]

Agreed, wind up..

Nothing to see here, move on please

 

[samiam]

1) Take one cat of the feline variety

2) Seek out suitable flying rat of the pigeon variety

3) Place 1) amongst 2)

 

[connieguy]

As a frequent domestic business traveller, I am am disappointed that I often need to wait behind a bunch of red e-deal-toting splice-eating WP riff-raff at the buffet and the bar.

Qantas doesn't let them sit in business class section of the aircraft without a deduction of points, or, deity forbid, defile the forward toilet with their bottoms, so why does Qantas let them into the business lounge willy-nilly?

There is a perfectly acceptable QP next door where the WPs can sit and recheck their seats at T-80, T-79, T-78 etc or whatever they do.

If QP wishes to continue to charge a premium for its business class passengers, it needs to get rid of the Holiday Inn-staying, taxi-using crowd and provide a true business class lounge for business class passengers.

Hey Russ,

When you do fly enough butt in the seat miles, sleep in airplane seats more than you do in hotel beds, spend more time on the road than home doing business and finally qualify for QF Platinum, I suggest you may just alter your image of how much QF WP do deserve the advantages QF Platinum delivers. Until then watch through your glass ceiling as the real Frequent and long distance Qantas flyers enjoy their hard earned and well deserved Platinum privileges. At least, in the excellent QF international F lounges in Mel and Syd, I'll never bump into or sit next to you as my fellow WPs and I enjoy the massages and sit down restaurant's melt in your mouth Salt and Pepper Squid, excellent wines and other WP privileges.

Greg

 

[anat0l]

I'm confused.

How do you define "riff-raff"? In other words, how would you rewrite the entry T&Cs?

I don't think putting in the words "riff-raff" in the said rules would achieve very much.

 

[jdlover23]

Here here Greg, just downing my second glass of Tattinger in the F lounge waiting for my dessert order to be taken, after my pork belly entree etc pretty quiet in here today, but I appreciate having access, having felt I've earned it, mainly through self funded flying

 

[connieguy]

Here here Greg, just downing my second glass of Tattinger in the F lounge waiting for my dessert order to be taken, after my pork belly entree etc pretty quiet in here today, but I appreciate having access, having felt I've earned it, mainly through self funded flying

Hey JD,

Enjoy and I too pay for my travel. As it is quite there today, have you booked your massage?

Greg

 

[JohnK]

I think Platinums who only fly on cheap red e-deals, and KUPs/YUPs, and whose company pays for flights, or flights are tax deductible should be banned from the business lounges and sent to the Qantas Lounge next door....

 

[samh004]

I voted no, but I’m not a WP. Reasoning being that the J lounges were clearly designed in size for WP’s to access them, not just J pax. If they were for just J pax they may as well down size them, as it’d be a stretch to fill them often.

If you push all the WP pax to the QP, then you have the problem of working out what to do with the crowding in there, either cutting SG or QP from access, or guests… which then leaves the whole program in an awful position compared to most.

And perhaps as mentioned, would you be all right with no longer having access to the F lounge as a WP when flying J? It all relates as the domestic J lounge is essentially an F lounge.

I think Platinums who only fly on cheap red e-deals, and KUPs/YUPs, and whose company pays for flights, or flights are tax deductible should be banned from the business lounges and sent to the Qantas Lounge next door....

Isn’t re-qualifying in Asia on cheap CX fares essentially the same as KUPs/YUPs?

 

[connieguy]

I think Platinums who only fly on cheap red e-deals, and KUPs/YUPs, and whose company pays for flights, or flights are tax deductible should be banned from the business lounges and sent to the Qantas Lounge next door....

Hey John,

Then it is a good thing I fly StarClass?

Greg

 

[jdlover23]

Greg, it's quiet today but the spa is down 3 staff, so I was wait listed, and will miss out today, ironically I'm flying J today, only to Fiji, but every other time I've been on coughstar or QF19, I've managed to get in, just bad timing, seeing as i was in here only 2 days ago, I consider myself lucky in all regards

 

[connieguy]

Greg, it's quiet today but the spa is down 3 staff, so I was wait listed, and will miss out today, ironically I'm flying J today, only to Fiji, but every other time I've been on coughstar or QF19, I've managed to get in, just bad timing, seeing as i was in here only 2 days ago, I consider myself lucky in all regards

Hey JD,

Fly JQ29/JQ30 *Class Mel/Bkk/Mel a LOT. Have visited Mel F Lounge 6 or 7 times and scored a massage every time. I do get there 3 hours before departure to Bkk. So maybe the longer lounge time gives me an edge? Lounge is normally quite at that time (1100 - 1400) with maybe 4 - 6 Pax, which normally turn out to be fellow JQ29 *Class Bkk Paxs. As they can't prebook massages and I get there before them, I do well with the massages.

Greg

 

[JohnK]

Isn’t re-qualifying in Asia on cheap CX fares essentially the same as KUPs/YUPs?

Not the same at all! There is a special exemption for any flights in Asia, JQ Starclass (because anyone flying JQ deserves a special exemption for putting up with JQ ) and NAN runs.

Anyway I fly on cheap red e-deals so I have banned myself from the business lounge.

 

[russ]

When you do fly enough butt in the seat miles, sleep in airplane seats more than you do in hotel beds, spend more time on the road than home doing business and finally qualify for QF Platinum, I suggest you may just alter your image of how much QF WP do deserve the advantages QF Platinum delivers. Until then watch through your glass ceiling as the real Frequent and long distance Qantas flyers enjoy their hard earned and well deserved Platinum privileges.

Huh? I am WP. It's not that hard to qualify. Maybe you are doing it wrong?

At least, in the excellent QF international F lounges in Mel and Syd, I'll never bump into or sit next to you.

There is no need to resort to personal invective. I am not referring to you as an individual, I am simply and quite fairly referring to the gaggle of Expert Flyer-subscribing, Jetstar-flying, exit rowers who clog up the Business Lounges.

JohnK, you are always welcome to share a drink with me in the J lounge.

 

[tuapekastar]

Keep the WP swine out, I say!

 

[TonyHancock]

Keep the WP swine out, I say!

Quite right I definitely wouldn't want me in the lounge if I'd paid for J! :?:

 

[enigma01au]

This is my first post on this forum, please be gentle....
I am not a Platinum, I've just manged to make Gold for the first time, but I believe that the higher up the FF ladder you get, the more privledges you should be entitled to. Why else would you choose to join the FF program!? Loyalty deserves reward .

 

[MatF]

Hang on .... they still make splices?!?