Smart Casual ??

[Milefest]

Never seen them enforce the smart casual rule ever. If you're wearing any type of clothing you'll get in, I've seen people walk around with no shoes.

 

[Pleb Status]

Something you would not see in the QP...



Observed last weekend at the VA PER lounge. The same 'person' had his feet (bare and 'thonged') on J bulkhead for most of the trip as well.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

I fly quite a bit and I still believe proper attire is long pants, collared shirt and definitely enclosed shoes. If it is exceptionally hot, then tailored shorts and honestly, we don't all care which brand undies you wear, so use a belt.

I also believe the downward trend in attitude toward personal appearance and the outright slovenly displays (like that pictured above), all ties into the lack of respect in society in general these days. If one cannot respect themselves nor their fellow travellers, it's no wonder they struggle with respect of the law, the police, teachers, bosses, religions, the opposite sex, neighbours and on it goes. Selfishness rules supreme in many people and it's sad.

 

[Bolthead]

Something you would not see in the QP...

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Observed last weekend at the VA PER lounge. The same 'person' had his feet (bare and 'thonged') on J bulkhead for most of the trip as well.

I don't really like it but there isn't a hate button... :evil:

 

[Jurahn]

Every time I walk into a VA lounge now (especially PER), I wonder whether some grub has had his/her stinky feet propped up on or splayed across the seat I'm going to sit in or the table I'm going to use - a very uncomfortable, unpleasant feeling indeed - and that's not even taking into consideration what they get up to on board the aircraft. VA shouldn't HAVE to enforce the rules of common courtesy and respect for others, people should have enough decency and dignity not to engage in this sort of bogan-ish behaviour but as swanning_it said, selfishness rules supreme in many people and if they won't modify their own behaviour, then someone else will have to.

 

[Buzzard]

Could not agree with you more swanning-it even if I do sometimes wear nice shorts to a lounge and when flying.

 

[The Flying Brick]

Something you would not see in the QP...

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Observed last weekend at the VA PER lounge. The same 'person' had his feet (bare and 'thonged') on J bulkhead for most of the trip as well.

No respect for others - let alone himself.
It is a good thing that Qantas have picked up their game recently and occasionally (although without consistency) kicked people out of the Qantas Lounge because they have been treating it as their own lounge at home where they can do exactly what they want and offend no-one rather than acting this way in a shared and much appreciated commercial facility.

If only the same standards were applied to the actual travel on aircraft. It's time that VA at least enforce minimum standards for lounge entry as no one deserves to be assaulted anywhere by disgusting and smelly feet elevated to the level of one's face anywhere let alone in a lounge or even worse, a small metal flying tube. ðŸ

 

[Deleted member 29185]

because they have been treating it as their own lounge at home where they can do exactly what they want

I'm guessing many of these people would not treat their own lounge like that. They do it because it's not theirs and they seem to believe that because they have a shiny card, it's their right to use and abuse at will. I'd fully support VA taking a tougher stand on these pigs and not just turfing them out without warning, but giving them appropriate bans on further use of the facility. Something like first offence, out the door immediately and a 1 month ban, second offence, out the door immediately and a 1 year ban. Third offence, out the door immediately and their Velocity membership cancelled along with loss of all points. Same with aircraft (although perhaps we might overlook the "out the door immediately" part ).

 

[clipped_wings]

Maybe we should post that photo to Virgin's Facebook page with a "please explain". It is a gross example in the lack of attention by staff at the Lounge as well. The onus has to fall squarely on VA here, to ensure this type of grubby habit will not be tolerated. As for the man involved, this picture just about sums up the argument for most of us here.

 

[Denali]

I posted this on a different thread a few months ago but VA Melb lounge.

 

[clipped_wings]

Yuk. Ok, we seriously need to open up a new thread: Frame & Shame. Hopefully the offenders will see themselves and be embarrassed enough to curb their disgusting behaviour.

 

[J.Alfred.Pruflock]

Honestly, can't the lounge staff give these people a Greyhound bus voucher and get them out.

Bare feet ... In the lounges and on the planes. Revolting. I see lots of people doing it and especially if you are privileged enough to be in business class and the first row it is NOT the done thing to put your rank tootsies up on the bulkhead.

It's xx_xx_x disgusting behaviour

 

[Deleted member 29185]

I posted this on a different thread a few months ago but VA Melb lounge.

Those chairs used to have matching footstools. Brisbane still have a few of them, but has MEL got rid of them all? (and the lack of footstools does not excuse the gutter set)

 

[Milefest]

They need that mining and resources lounge they were talking about last year. Anyone that doesn't meet the dress code can be thrown into the pigsty.

 

[Denali]

They need that mining and resources lounge they were talking about last year. Anyone that doesn't meet the dress code can be thrown into the pigsty.

But most of the photos we see are about peoples behaviour, not if they are wearing fluros or dusty boots.

I don't have a problem with a person wearing long shorts, tshirt and/or fluros and I think "pigsty" is a bit harsh. I do have a problem someone sticking their feet onto tables and furniture, talking loudly and hitting the bar hard.

 

[Ausbt]

For long haul, my Columbia zip-off pants, Icebreaker merino long-sleeved t-shirt and Snowgum packable jacket all actually look classy enough provided the jacket is left on, as it is when lounging. Skins compression tights (with the hiking pants left on of course) and another merino pullover are for in-flight. Flight socks are there for a purpose - to keep bare feet covered. VA lounges aside, which often resemble a tattooist's convention held in a Gold Coast pub, I haven't noticed too many shabby fellow travellers. Thongs/flip-flops/Jandals ...just ban them.

 

[medhead]

Something you would not see in the QP...

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True dat.
Qantas don't have those purple chairs.

 

[andrewlorien]

Fast forward 30 years and I STILL plan my flying clothes in advance. I'm not suggesting that everyone colour co-ordinates bag, shoes and attire the way I do, but people - please keep this magnificent mode of travel up there with Important Places To Look Good. And for those Privileged Few who enjoy Global Lounges: don't confuse Lounge Access with Lounge Room. This isn't your private home and you should at least take enough pride in your appearance to justify the efforts you went to in gaining access to the Lounge in the first place.

Dressing down to shorts and T shirts (no matter how premium the brand) is just a way of showing the world you can't be bothered, it's never cool.

I met a guy once who had gone to jail (in america) for running a network of speakeasy gambling joints. No drugs, no prostitutes, just high quality booze and free poker tables. And... nobody allowed in unless they were dressed to the nines. He said "we're all extras in somebody else's fantasy."

I do have a friend who was denied entry to a Virgin lounge. She's a musician. Dressed for the stage. See-through top, but she was wearing a bra. And the whole outfit was stage-worthy - nothing ripped or daggy. but not, appearently, lounge-worthy. I'd much rather have shared the space with her than mister thongs-on-the-seat above.

 

[clipped_wings]

I met a guy once who had gone to jail (in america) for running a network of speakeasy gambling joints. No drugs, no prostitutes, just high quality booze and free poker tables. And... nobody allowed in unless they were dressed to the nines. He said "we're all extras in somebody else's fantasy."

I do have a friend who was denied entry to a Virgin lounge. She's a musician. Dressed for the stage. See-through top, but she was wearing a bra. And the whole outfit was stage-worthy - nothing ripped or daggy. but not, appearently, lounge-worthy. I'd much rather have shared the space with her than mister thongs-on-the-seat above.

I see your point and agree. There is such an imbalance of interpretation with what is considered appropriate these days. I'd have sat with your friend in a heartbeat. And the dude with the speakeasy - what a waste of an entrepreneur! I'll bet (pun intended) he was far more discriminating than most establishments.

 

[subichow]

As much as I love thongs I can't stand people who wear them on a plane **shudders**