Absolutely agree. I am with the Virgin system for the status credits. Once I get the platinum 800 I pool to my partner, and vice versa, so he can maintain his platinum. If we both get there, we then give to his cousin. (no point getting more than 800) . FF points not so important. Have only used the FF points accrued for upgrades or small local fares. Need to get that status. Currently very satisfied with treatment (except for the downgraded meals in business). If that changed, or Virgin started messing me about, no more loyalty, fly Qantas or Virgin. Mind you changed to Virgin because I found Qantas treated you like rubbish even with Qantas club membership in favour of the mining employees during the boom. And Virgin's associates Etihad and Singapore are really good.