status run question

[Gold Member]

Anyway, here's an 1840 SC routing:

syd-lax-dfw-bos-mia-iah-ord-lax-lhr-cpt-jnb-hkg-cmb-sin-hkg-nrt-syd
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What about using the transit Asia rule? SYD-HKG-JFK instead of direct to LAX? Long flight combination but the OP is after SCs after all...

 

[NM]

What about using the transit Asia rule? SYD-HKG-JFK instead of direct to LAX? Long flight combination but the OP is after SCs after all...

Most airline ticketing departments will interpret the rules as the SYD-HKG-JFK constitutes your Asia continent, even if its technically a transit. So you Europe-Asia-Australia must then be a transit only. The interprettion of this rule has been debated many times, but I am yet to hear of anyone managing to change the issuing airline's mind once they make their determination of the ruling. Some have managed to ticket with a transit SWP-ASIA-USA and stopover EUR-ASIA-SWP, but I believe these cases to be few and risk the possibility of being rejected if trying to re-issue later. I believe the intention of the rule is that if travelling SWP-ASIA-USA, it is considered the Asia touch. However, I agree the wording is ambiguous.

I have done this routing several times and it is a good earner, especially for AA members. Qantas members should note that using CX flight number for the HKG-USA leg does not earn status bonus points. But if you book the AA codeshare on the same flight you will get the status bonus points. For AA earners, CX in D will earn the status bonus.

 

[Evan]

It is a touch so when passing through Asia you always have to include it in the continent count, but you can come from Europe on a through flight direct to Australia and the later back to Asia, the rule allows you to so EUR-SWP-ASIA-USA.

Thats if your all talking about the rule i am thinking of ?
In any case the increase in SC's is actually not much but every one counts.

 

[NM]

It is a touch so when passing through Asia you always have to include it in the continent count, but you can come from Europe on a through flight direct to Australia and the later back to Asia, the rule allows you to so EUR-SWP-ASIA-USA.

Thats if your all talking about the rule i am thinking of ?

Yes, but I would describe it as EUR-x(asia)-SWP-ASIA-USA. The first one (asia) has to be a transit only and the second one (ASIA) can be a stopover and include up to 4 segments. And of course the oposite direction is also good.

Some people have been able to ticket as EUR-ASIA-SWP-x(asia)-USA or similar combination such as SWP-x(asia)-USA-EUR-ASIA-SWP. But while the rule can be interpreted that way due to the lack of punctuation, I believe it is not the intent and most issuing agents will not permit it.

In any case the increase in SC's is actually not much but every one counts.

Some examples:

BNE-HKG-LAX = 300 SC
BNE-LAX = 180 SC

SYD-NRT-JFK = 300 SC
SYD-JFK = 240 SC

So unless you are using the extra segment for between 60 and 120 SC earning, it can be a good way to go. And of course helps to maximise miles/points earning as well due to being long flights. And generally operated by well-appointed long-haul business class cabins and good lounges.

Personally I did it as the order of continents suited my schedule better, fist visiting Asia, then USA, then Europe.

 

[Gold Member]

Qantas members should note that using CX flight number for the HKG-USA leg does not earn status bonus points. But if you book the AA codeshare on the same flight you will get the status bonus points.

Hi NM

Can you please explain this for Qantas members? My reading of the current earning table indicates that all business classes (CDIJ) on CX earn status credits with points at normal bonus levels too.

Is the restriction apparent for JFK-HKG?

 

[NM]

Hi NM

Can you please explain this for Qantas members? My reading of the current earning table indicates that all business classes (CDIJ) on CX earn status credits with points at normal bonus levels too.

Is the restriction apparent for JFK-HKG?

re-read my post. I sated that Qantas members do not earn the "status bonus points". That is the 100% extra FF points for a Platinum member, 50% bonus for gold members, and 25% bonus for Silver members. All members earn Status Credits at the same rate for all eligible OneWorld business class flights.

Qantas members only earn the status bonus points on flights with a QF, BA or AA flight number. No status bonus for CX flights. AA members earn their status bonus (miles) on CX flights (EXP and Plat members earning 100% bonus, Gold members earning 50% bonus).

 

[serfty]

There have been reports of being able to book the SWP-xASIA-NA routing using the online booking tools and having an Asian stopover coming the other way to/from Europe.

 

[Gold Member]

re-read my post. I sated that Qantas members do not earn the "status bonus points". That is the 100% extra FF points for a Platinum member, 50% bonus for gold members, and 25% bonus for Silver members. All members earn Status Credits at the same rate for all eligible OneWorld business class flights.

Qantas members only earn the status bonus points on flights with a QF, BA or AA flight number. No status bonus for CX flights. AA members earn their status bonus (miles) on CX flights (EXP and Plat members earning 100% bonus, Gold members earning 50% bonus).

OK, I think I understand now. I've never heard of this before though... Is this a OWE or QF/CX restriction? Is there a link to the wording somewhere? Thanks

 

[Flashback]

OK, I think I understand now. I've never heard of this before though... Is this a OWE or QF/CX restriction? Is there a link to the wording somewhere? Thanks

QF/CX restriction, in regards to partner earning on the QF program. Details in the T&C / Partner Earning table.

 

[NM]

OK, I think I understand now. I've never heard of this before though... Is this a OWE or QF/CX restriction? Is there a link to the wording somewhere? Thanks

Its in the Qantas Frequent Flyer terms and conditions. See their web site. Note the first point listed under Platinum Privileges and follow the "+" to the foot notes below. Similar for Gold and Silver status members.

 

[Gold Member]

Thanks NM. Never really read that in much detail. For some long intercontinental flights on CX this places quite a bit more importance on finding a QF/AA/BA codeshare now for me.

Just out of interest, I wonder why only AA and BA would offer this status bonus while all other OW airlines wouldn't.

 

[Flashback]

Thanks NM. Never really read that in much detail. For some long intercontinental flights on CX this places quite a bit more importance on finding a QF/AA/BA codeshare now for me.

Just out of interest, I wonder why only AA and BA would offer this status bonus while all other OW airlines wouldn't.

AA and BA have a joint services agreement with QF, so I'd say that's why.

 

[coolumbla]

Serfty and v8 statesman

WHen i did the status calculation on the runs you showed me i got less
Is your higher tally due to the d class booking into first in the US?

Shane

 

[v8Statesman]

Serfty and v8 statesman

WHen i did the status calculation on the runs you showed me i got less
Is your higher tally due to the d class booking into first in the US?

Shane

CLose, Domestic flight in the US (on 2 class flights) book into A. That will earn First SC and bonus. That is why it comes out higher.