Stopping / Slowing the Spread of COVID-19 - Flattening The Curve

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The Italians were way too slow to understand that they had covid 19 spreading and even slower to act once they did.
 
Thanks Qaz the first article is an excellent one.

It is written with a USA perspective and it drives home the huge damage that a Trump led government in the USA may now be fanning with its failure to understand what needs to be done. Italy Mark2 is in plane sight with its already low testing tate and failures in its testing practices. Locally some of its lower level governments are acting as they understand what Trump does not.
 
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This happened (and since reversed)

These are health public service posters to stop the spread but ordered by the Justice Department to be removed.

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It is written with a USA perspective and it drives home the huge damage that a Trump led government in the USA may now be fanning with its failure to understand what needs to be done.
Would suggest its more than that, there is a pattern of denial here, in order to address any problem in society the first step is always to admit there is one and Trump has a history of failure in this regards. If you wont admit there is a problem you never even get on to step 2 of doing something about it.
 
edit - STOP PRESS: WHO declares COVID-19 as pandemic


OP updated:



This is a rapidly evolving situation. There are outbreaks of COVID-19 in several countries. International SOS is monitoring closely and updating this website as more information becomes available.​

other COVID-19 tracker/dashboard reports:


The Italians were way too slow to understand that they had covid 19 spreading and even slower to act once they did.

perhaps, but not necessarily:

elsewhere:


Thanks Qaz the first article is an excellent one.

It is written with a USA perspective and it drives home the huge damage that a Trump led government in the USA may now be fanning with its failure to understand what needs to be done. Italy Mark2 is in plane sight with its already low testing tate and failures in its testing practices. Locally some of its lower level governments are acting as they understand what Trump does not.

you're welcome, though the author is an Australian whom I know, which I posted more for its data analytics rather than commentary on the situation in the USA, whereby possibly slowly if not surely, the response is now hopefully improving from
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Like almost all countries. Even here in Australia people still talk about "containment".

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The lack of testing in Japan is apparent given they had relatively early outbreaks.

Yet they haven't seemingly had the same overwhelmed hospitals and deaths as Italy.

Is that cultural? (Eg. Italy's food sharing or handmade pasta) or Luck?
 
At this stage they are not going to cancel the Sydney Royal Easter Show. :(
 
this stage they are not going to cancel the Sydney Royal Easter Show.

Fair enough. Still some time before that event, and it's mostly outdoors.

Plenty of sporting events before this with NRL starting this week and AFL next.

Personally I'd be more concerned about indoor places that have high turnover of different people on the same day - cinemas, food courts, playgrounds
 
At this stage they are not going to cancel the Sydney Royal Easter Show

The SRES is a local event, doesnt attract huge number of overseas particpants or tourists, so i wouldnt think risk was same as say the Grand Prix. It wouldnt be importing offshore cases, its just people coing in from regional areas to the big smoke. Then again I havent been since it was at Moore Park, cant imagine it at Olympic Park and no kids.
 
At this stage they are not going to cancel the Sydney Royal Easter Show. :(

What if they have a show, but nobody comes....

I wonder what part the business penchant for open plan offices will ultimately play in this? Or at least the level to which any business is affected.
 
Fair enough. Still some time before that event, and it's mostly outdoors.
Plenty of sporting events before this with NRL starting this week and AFL next.
Personally I'd be more concerned about indoor places that have high turnover of different people on the same day - cinemas, food courts, playgrounds
Geez, the NRL will have even less people than usual.

I was suppose to go out last night to meet a Hemsworth and have drinks and canapes - gave it a miss.

Hubby usually catches a bus to my office and has lunch with me on Thursday - hes going to give it a miss for a while as well.
 

Public health officials have identified at least 233 cases in the U.S. so, a fraction of the more than 100,600 infections across the world. But epidemiologists and state officials say the actual number of COVID-19 patients in the U.S. is likely in the thousands, maybe even tens of thousands, since testing here has been limited by a lack of kits and stringent criteria set by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Compton-Phillips said the doctors, nurses and other front-line workers watching the outbreak in real time are all saying “this is coming.”

“It’s not if, it’s when. And we better get ready now,” she said.


 
OK just to set the record straight.CDC announced over a week ago that they were recording just the tests samples sent to them for testing.Some states have developed their own tests and are reported separately.

As you can see the numbers tested by the CDC were over 1000 by the end of January.The official figures tested by the CDC as of yesterday were 3791 and by other public health labs 7288.As of 29/2 private labs were authorised to develop test kits and do their own testing so even these test numbers are on the low side of tests done.
Also the much maligned VP Mike Pence hasn't been napping-already getting an agreement with private insurers that nobody will be out of pocket getting tested or treated for Covid 19.

Also in their plans for the economy with the Covid virus making sure those casual or part time employees on hourly pay rates don't miss out.

Sorry but those paragons of virtue the NYT and Wapo are reporting fake news.
Then look at Italy,France,Germany and Spain where the first cases were identified after the first case in the USA,20/1,and explain why their cases are exploding more than the USA's.

The thing is testing isn't the measure of success in controlling the virus which is why Japan and Taiwan are succeeding in decreasing the spread because they had their plans in place after the SARs virus caused major problems for them.South Korea was initially in the same situation but they were unlucky in having a super spreader early on so had to pull out all stops.These countries also have populations who will respond to the correct policies.

Control is best achieved by social isolation and good sanitary practices.But unfortunately there will always be people who don't think the advice relates to them.
Also the cost of those policies.This makes Western Democracies less able to institute these measures.
 
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OK just to set the record straight.CDC announced over a week ago that they were recording just the tests samples sent to them for testing.Some states have developed their own tests and are reported separately.

As you can see the numbers tested by the CDC were over 1000 by the end of January.The official figures tested by the CDC as of yesterday were 3791 and by other public health labs 7288.As of 29/2 private labs were authorised to develop test kits and do their own testing so even these test numbers are on the low side of tests done.

thanks, but don't confuse 3791 swab specimens with 1784 people - more than one swab specimen is / can be taken from each person tested? :)
 
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Yes it is usually 2 tests per person.but interesting that they say3791 specimens.But even on those specimen figures it comes out to nearly 3 times the number of people tested.Plus it doesn't include those tested at private labs.

California has set up 4 Covid labs using their own viral test.They can each process 1000 specimens (500 people) a day.
 
Yes it is usually 2 tests per person.but interesting that they say3791 specimens.But even on those specimen figures it comes out to nearly 3 times the number of people tested.Plus it doesn't include those tested at private labs.

California has set up 4 Covid labs using their own viral test.They can each process 1000 specimens (500 people) a day.

I presume you mean that as non-CDC labs test about twice the number as the CDC (1.9, 7288 vs 3791), that the total tested is about three times (2.9) the CDC?

So if CDC tested 77 people in the last 72 hours, then the total for all labs would be 225-231, which averages 75-77 people per day?




 
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