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Some young people are apparently rocking up to hubs and being able to get AZ
Australia is one of a few jurisdictions not giving AZ to under 60s
Plus some provinces in Canada have banend AZ altogther.
There is hardly any supply of AZ left in Canada in any event, so speaking about AZ in the Canadian context is irrelevant.
This is incorrect. AZ remains approved by Health Canada as a Covid vaccine. Provinces cannot "banend" [sic] a vaccine. They may refrain from administering it, but it is not "banend" by Health Canada and remains approved.
There is hardly any supply of AZ left in Canada in any event, so speaking about AZ in the Canadian context is irrelevant. Like ATAGI, the Canadian equivalent (NACI) overstepped its bounds in its approach to "preferencing" mRNA vaccines over AZ against approval from Health Canada of a safe and effective vaccine. Fortunately for NACI, given the supply constraints for AZ and unlimited mRNA supplies in Canada, the overstepping of its bounds did not, unlike in Australia, have serious consequences.
I had AZ for D1, but was unable to obtain it for D2, although AZ for D2 was my preference. So for my D2 today I had no choice but to have an mRNA vaccine. Fortunately the science behind heterologous vaccination is sound and the studies that have taken place so far have identified no safety signals and high efficacy and effectiveness, both from a surface antibody and T-cell perspective. I would not be surprised to see that a D1 viral vector and D2 mRNA and subsequent mRNA boosters is the most effective combination.
An interesting article, and some good points, but Trioli may want to check her demographics - quite a lot of Gen-Xers are ineligible/discouraged on the current Fed web site "Am I eligible for vaccination?" for any vaccine at the moment, and the younger you go, the harder it is to get vaccinated unless you have unlimited time to try to "gatecrash" or opportunistically get into a mass vaccination clinic and get lucky that the clinic has stock close to expiry and have staff prepared to "bend the rules" or make the executive decision to vaccinate under 50s, these clinics are only located in major cities by the way.Some young people are apparently rocking up to hubs and being able to get AZ.... It was on the news last night... here is a related story.
I fully support some of the ATAGI members thoughts that people should be able to choose if they want AZ and let them get it if they want.
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Australians under 40 are crying out for the coronavirus vaccine — are we listening?
Overheard in Sydney, just a few hours before lockdown:
"It was pissing me off earlier in the week — went out to a bakery and the only people not wearing masks were three old men, all of whom had probably been vaccinated. Young people have given up so much to protect old people — happily for the most part — and it sucks to see them not doing their part."
She, like virtually every 20 to 40-year-old I know is desperate to be vaccinated.
They'd take the AZ in a heartbeat if allowed — they narrow their eyes resentfully at Baby Boomers and Gen Xers who fret and pace over whether to wait for Pfizer or go now.
They see footage of empty mass vaccination centres. If you don't want it, their silence fairly screams, then get. Out. Of. The. Way.
Some have simply charged through the queue. Oakley, 24, heard that a local health service was giving AZ to whoever wanted it, turned up, had a chat about the under 50 warning and walked away with his first shot.
The young and the vaxless: Furious under 40s are crying out to be vaccinated
Virtually every 20 to 40-year-old I know is desperate to be vaccinated. They would take the AZ in a heartbeat if allowed and narrow their eyes resentfully at Baby Boomers and Gen Xers who fret about it, writes Virginia Trioli.www.abc.net.au
. Don't know whether to be glad vaccines are easily available, or to be upset that people are not rushing to get vaccinated.
The multi-tiered priority system is great for when you have a limited number of vaccines, but depending on if you think Australia is beyond that or not, the priority-tiered approach can have some perverse outcomes now if the aim is to get as many vaccinated as possible. Vaccines in fridges are pretty pointless, they need to be in arms of people to be effective.
So can we define this as a case of flexibility or not knowing what the heck we are doing?Australia now considering the JnJ vax.... wow seriously
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Late this afternoon the Deputy Chief Medical Officer Michael Kidd contradicted earlier reports and indicated there would be further discussions about whether Australia would purchase the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine.
Greater Sydney, Blue Mountains, Central Coast and Wollongong into two-week lockdown
Gladys Berejiklian says a two-week lockdown is necessary because confirmed COVID cases have been active in the community for a number of days.www.abc.net.au
So can we define this as a case of flexibility or not knowing what the heck we are doing?
I used the term cluster quite some days ago. Still apt.So JnJ all good but no no, can’t use AZ...? hmmm I’d go with another complete cluster at the National level.
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Rubbish.Agree 100% that doses must not be wasted but isn't this a little bit 'smoke & mirrors'?
As AZ is not supposed to be given to under 60s - that rules out over 90% of people living in Polynesia. The median age, for example, for Micronesia is just 26.8 and Melanesia is 22.8 (includes PNG).
Samoa is 21.8, Vanuatu 21.1, and Tonga is 22.8.
The median age for Australia is 37.2 in comparision, with just under 20% of Australians, permanent residents & visitors aged 60 or over.
The combined population for Micro & Melanesia is around 11.7m people, so the AZ doses required to treat the 60yr+ residents (2 x 1.17m =) 2.34m or 17 days CSL production.
Given usage so far, & projected demand (2nd doses + new demand), that leaves around 42 million of the contracted 50 million AZ doses as surplus to requirements. With current stockpiling - I hope we hear some decisions being made asap before China totally out-manouevres Australia.
For example, sending doses to India, Bangladesh, Indonesia, etc. Perhaps complete with defence force medical teams to (temporarily) run mass vaccination clinics & fly the flag).
It was pointless to give approval to J&J, its basically the same as AZ but in a single dose and has the same blood clot issue. Would be a poor decision to invest tax dollers in another version of something that is already unwanted.
Moderna is used more than J&J in US and some other countries, would have thought it would of been approved first as a lot of real world data available.