Tiger aircraft has technical fault

[UP4014]

Looked but didn't see it reported elsewhere on AFF. (mods please delete if I missed it elsewhere)

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Cheers,
Matt

 

[opusman]

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Mmmm, cookies

 

[serfty]

Mmmm, cookies

Here's a low calorie version:

Tiger Airways flight in landing drama | News.com.au

 

[Nigelinoz]

There had to be a "Tiger aircraft in emergency landing" and Yahoo didn't disappoint.
Tiger Airways plane makes emergency landing - Yahoo!7
Cheers
N'oz

 

[harvyk]

I'm personally very disappointed that the Australian media didn't blow this totally out of proportion...
Surely they could have made something up about how a pax heroically let someone out the door before themselves during the massive panic of an ordinary civilised aircraft disembarkation...

 

[spudseamus]

I'm personally very disappointed that the Australian media didn't blow this totally out of proportion...
Surely they could have made something up about how a pax heroically let someone out the door before themselves during the massive panic of an ordinary civilised aircraft disembarkation...

Maybe if it had been Qantas---------

 

[reductionist]

I love the language used by the Tiger rep.

The technical fault which caused this morning's incident had redundancy back-up systems available

Systems generally come with redundancy systems. Faults do not.

 

[spudseamus]

I love the language used by the Tiger rep.



Systems generally come with redundancy systems. Faults do not.

If that was the case did the back up system fail as well?:shock:

 

[reductionist]

If that was the case did the back up system fail as well?:shock:

I'm not a pilot, but if I had to have a stab at this I'd say that if one of your landing gear motors fails when retracting the gear after take off, then the safer option is to leave the gear extended and return to base immediately rather than use the backup motor to retract it and risk having the backup motor fail at your destination.

 

[spudseamus]

I'm not a pilot, but if I had to have a stab at this I'd say that if one of your landing gear motors fails when retracting the gear after take off, then the safer option is to leave the gear extended and return to base immediately rather than use the backup motor to retract it and risk having the backup motor fail at your destination.

:shock::shock: very true!!

 

[NM]

I'm not a pilot, but if I had to have a stab at this I'd say that if one of your landing gear motors fails when retracting the gear after take off, then the safer option is to leave the gear extended and return to base immediately rather than use the backup motor to retract it and risk having the backup motor fail at your destination.

But when landing, you have the additional "backup" of gravity to help get it down :-|

 

[reductionist]

But when landing, you have the additional "backup" of gravity to help get it down :-|

I don't know if this is the case in all aircraft.

Nevertheless, do I want a pilot who'll say to himself "screw it I'll retract it with the backup motor and use gravity to get it down at the other end if needed"?

Definitely not. The safest course of action is the correct one.

 

[medhead]

I thought gear was control hydraulically. I'm not sure it is possible to have a backup system in that case. Also I would suggest the tiger spokesperson meant redundant systems rather than redundancy. They have a system for redundancy of their equipment?


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[harvyk]

Assuming the landing gear had actually retracted, there is an alternate method of lowering the landing gear.

 

[elbarto]

I'm sorry, but where's Steve Purvinas promoting the strengths of ALAEA and how Tigers cost cutting is endangering lives??? If he was truly interested in promoting the strengths of Australian aircraft engineers he'd be all over it. But since there probably no members at Tiger he's not interested.

Assuming the landing gear had actually retracted, there is an alternate method of lowering the landing gear.

Yes. I believe there's a manual system that's gravity powered.

 

[medhead]

I'm sorry, but where's Steve Purvinas promoting the strengths of ALAEA and how Tigers cost cutting is endangering lives??? If he was truly interested in promoting the strengths of Australian aircraft engineers he'd be all over it. But since there probably no members at Tiger he's not interested.

Well he is paid to look after the interests of the members. So I'm not sure this is really a problem.


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[Awesom Andy]

If the gear is retracted, you might as well keep flying to your destination. Trying to land at the point of origin or destination would makes no difference in terms of the gear, but you would have a lighter aircraft if you land at the destination.

However, if the gear is not retracted, or if there is something suspect and retraction has not been attempted, it would make the most sense to keep it there and land at where you came from (or better equipped airports close by). It held the plane up alright just a few moments ago - if you don't touch it, it probably wouldn't be too bad if you just leave it alone and land on it, despite any indications you may receive in the coughpit.

 

[NM]

I don't know if this is the case in all aircraft.

Nevertheless, do I want a pilot who'll say to himself "screw it I'll retract it with the backup motor and use gravity to get it down at the other end if needed"?

Definitely not. The safest course of action is the correct one.

I did use the word "help" in reference to gravity, not suggesting it is the sole component of the redundant system. Gravity is always going to "help", unless the aircraft is inverted at the time :shock:

 

[MarkD]

I don't fly tiger, and it's doubtful I ever will, however, surely this falls into the **** happens category. If it is mechanical there is potential for failure, regardless of the volume of maintenance and checks done, sometimes things cannot be prevented nor predicted

 

[medhead]

If the gear is retracted, you might as well keep flying to your destination.

of course, in this incident the gear didn't retract.


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