Travel etiquette

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Maybe they thought that the entire seat was theirs to do with as they liked.

What do you define as the "entire seat"? Does it include the tray-table and screen of the person behind?? No??? Well it would be very unfortunate if the person behind also developed a temporary OCD condition that entailed opening and slamming the tray-table closed every 3.2 seconds ... wouldn't it?

The truth is you don't own anything on a plane - the airline does.
 
Very annoying flight on Dec 23 with AA from IAD-DFW. I was in the 2nd row of first class, absolutely drained after a huge 9 day run of continuous work in IAD and YOW. First leg of the long flight back to CBR. Anyway, there was a lady and her daughter in the front two seats, and the husband in the seat next to me. The woman immediately reclines the seat as far as it would go - which is reasonable, and it's first class, so there's a bit of leg room left. She then starts 'bouncing' against the seat back to push it further back, banging my knees in the process (I'm only 6'2"). I put up with this for 5 minutes. Then she takes off her shoes, puts her feet on the bulkhead, and drives the seat back as far as it will physically go - clearly pushing the seat beyond its limits. I'd had enough at this point. I said to her husband "is your wife actually trying to push her seat through my legs?" and he became very apologetic and told her off. She then put the seat all the way forward, and apologised profusely. I told them both "keep the seat reclined, you paid for first class, just please don't push the seat back with your feet on the bulkhead". They left it upright and kept apologising. I gave up and got on with the flight. When I looked across at the other side of the row, two of the passengers were nodding to me in sympathy.

Ugh. Recline by all means, but be reasonable and consider the poor soul behind you.
 
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Yeah. Can't buy class with a first class ticket. I wonder what she was thinking with her feet driving it back.
 
Yeah. Can't buy class with a first class ticket. I wonder what she was thinking with her feet driving it back.
Even without trying to force the seat back, what sort of person thinks it's ok to put feet onto bulkhead furnishings?
Oh yeah, I forgot. ;)
 
Even without trying to force the seat back, what sort of person thinks it's ok to put feet onto bulkhead furnishings?
Oh yeah, I forgot. ;)

Many a times I am tempted to say to those "feet resters" not to do it but always refrained from doing so as I do not want to get involved in an useless argument.

But I wonder if any of you had actually spoken out against those bulkhead feet resters ?
 
Personally I like a window seat. Almost always sit in one. The only people I push past are the ones that refuse to let me out (and I don't need to get up often). You obviously do, so you won't get any problems from me.

I obviously have to get up often? By what bizarre thought process did you decide that is the case? I sit in an aisle seat because of my issues as it makes getting out much easier. My need to get up is almost entirely determined by those getting into and out of the other seats, the rude people who can't wait while I get moving and just push passed
 
My current main wheeled carry-on is compliant at at 115cm (or 45 inches) linear, is almost 45 litres capacity and weighs exactly 2kg empty. Nothing inefficient about it for my purposes.

Oh yeah? And how much does it weight with 45 litres of stuff in it? You couldn't possible fill it with a normal mix of stuff and still be <7kg.

Do you also carry a second bag?
 
I obviously have to get up often? By what bizarre thought process did you decide that is the case? I sit in an aisle seat because of my issues as it makes getting out much easier. My need to get up is almost entirely determined by those getting into and out of the other seats, the rude people who can't wait while I get moving and just push passed

What I meant was that you obviously let people out. As in, do the right thing. I agree that the people who push past you are rude.
 
Originally Posted by get me outta here My titanium parts certainly sets off all the alarms so I just assume the position early and they seem to know without me explaining it what the culprit is. Doesn't get me out of the pat down though. Take shoes off every time and I don't hold anyone up as I'm always pulled aside.


My titanium jewellery never sets off the alarm, or the hand wand.

Perhaps one of you was conned. I do hope it was the jewellery - I would hate for someone's Titanium "parts" to actually be some other kind of metal, say lead.
 
Perhaps one of you was conned. I do hope it was the jewellery - I would hate for someone's Titanium "parts" to actually be some other kind of metal, say lead.

I wonder if its a size factor? My titanium " part" is very small, and doesn't set anything off.
 
What I meant was that you obviously let people out. As in, do the right thing. I agree that the people who push past you are rude.

I prefer to sit on the aisle on any form of public transport. Be it a bus or a train or a plane, if the window person needs to get past me all they have to do is mutter "excuse me" and I'll happily move. Hell, I'll even move cheerfully if they do as much as grunt. But if they just stand and expect me to budge without any acknowledgement of me, then they're not going anywhere. Occasionally it comes to the point where I'm forced to say, in a surprised tone, "oh, do you need to get off?" and they get the message.
 
I prefer to sit on the aisle on any form of public transport. Be it a bus or a train or a plane, if the window person needs to get past me all they have to do is mutter "excuse me" and I'll happily move. Hell, I'll even move cheerfully if they do as much as grunt. But if they just stand and expect me to budge without any acknowledgement of me, then they're not going anywhere. Occasionally it comes to the point where I'm forced to say, in a surprised tone, "oh, do you need to get off?" and they get the message.

The message being that you have no sympathy for people with speech defects, deaf, mute, don't speak any English, extremely shy? I think if they have stood up they have made their intentions clear enough and you should do your bit.
 
The message being that you have no sympathy for people with speech defects, deaf, mute, don't speak any English, extremely shy? I think if they have stood up they have made their intentions clear enough and you should do your bit.

The message being that if people have a disability then they are more than willing to communicate it in some way. The worst offenders are those dear little 20 somethings on the bus or the train who have been yammering away on their phones for the journey, sharing the details of last night's bonk with the entire set of passengers. They are not shy, deaf, mute or disabled and they certainly have an intimate knowledge of the English language.

Whenever I've said "oh, do you need to get off?" there has always been an affirmative answer, so I suspect that I've never inconvenience anybody in the categories that you've imagined that I have.

You're welcome.
 
I think the point is, we should all be a little more polite to our fellow travellers and it will make the experience better for all of us.
 
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