Trip report: VA-VX MEL-LAX-SFO

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I have heard rumors that the bar area will be scrapped in favour of more seats :evil:

Bad bad move as on all 4 of my trips this bar area was well utilized :mrgreen:

I thought this had actually been confirmed...? Unsurprising really if they are ripping it out.

- Bar not utilized heavily
- Bar service can be replicated by the trolley dollies (if you get a good crew!)
- Bar space can earn $ with seats and V Aus is still struggling, needs every cent it can get
- I spoke to a V Aus FA who said they actually had more complaints than compliments about the bar (too noisy, annoying foot traffic, lack of selection etc). May just have been put in the too hard basket??
 
An update to round out my trip from a few weeks ago ... after taking the train from San Francisco to Seattle with a few days in Portland (which I can definitely recommend doing if you have the time!), it came time for me to fly back home. My routing (across separate tickets no less) was:

SEA-SFO VX F
SFO-LAX VX MCS
LAX-MEL VA whY+

You'll need to forgive the lack of photos -- I've got a few blurry ones from my phone, but I didn't feel like dragging out my big camera on the way back home, so there's really not much to look at. :(

Flying with VX was interesting. QF009 has posted a thread about them recently, and I agree on all points -- it's a v different experience to what I'm used to with AA, and mostly in a good way. Once you're in the air, they're probably the best short-haul carrier in the US by a long margin! Sadly, their ground service is lacking a little; here's a quick run down:
  • No recognition of partner airline status, therefore..
  • Priority check-in and security only available to Main Cabin Select and First pax
  • No lounges!
  • That said, the VS Clubhouse at SFO (which VX pax can pay for) is at least 8 kinds of awesome :)
I also successfully managed to get away with not checking any luggage during this trip (and I certainly should have been forced to; still not quite sure how I managed that), which made things nice and easy once I got back home.

So, without further ado..

VX 753 SEA-SFO

I decided to get out to the airport on the cheap and as close to departure time as possible, seeing as there is no lounge facility for VX pax at SEA. Departed my hotel (W Seattle, nice hotel, great resto but not very "W-ish"), took the stupidly cheap light rail ($2.50 one way!) from the Metro stop two blocks away out to the airport. Quite efficient! Made my way to check in and collected a boarding card; was disappointed to find that VX can't/won't issue all boarding passes for that day's travel, nor can they access VA systems at all -- something that they need to fix, as it compares v poorly to QF/AA. Anyway. Through security relatively quickly, stopped in for caffeine and straight over to the boarding gate, which was poorly organised.. boarding wasn't being policed appropriately at all, "gate lice" everywhere. Not great. Finally made it to my seat and managed to get all my cough in the overhead lockers (yay!), followed promptly by a wonderful FA offering to get me something from the bar. Gin sounds like a good idea to me!

The F seat is quite comfortable, though I'm not sure why they thought that white leather would be a good idea. Not exactly a low-maintenance colour! The seats weren't exactly dirty, but they are definitely showing signs of wear. Also odd with the seat is the fact that there's no underseat stowage anywhere in F; the FA explained that while in theory there's space under the seat, the design of the seat means that anything under it would get crushed just as soon as the seat was reclined..!

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[size=-2]VX F seat[/size]

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[size=-2]VX F legroom[/size]​

A light meal service was offered during the flight, but of course -- no vegetarian options. The FA offered a packet of mixed pretzels and frequent gin refills by way of apologies, which were gladly accepted. ;)

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[size=-2]Note the vegetarian gin, vegetarian cheese plate and vegetarian pretzels![/size]​

All told, it was a pretty pleasant experience. Made it in to SFO International mostly on time, out through security to get the next boarding pass and immediately struck a problem: the staff at the check-in desk couldn't find my lounge access purchase on their systems. First they told me I hadn't paid, then I wasn't entitled to access .. one supervisor, proof of purchase and re-reading of the rules on the VX website later, they finally conceded that I was indeed entitled to use the lounge and furnished me with a lounge pass.

What happened was I had purchased lounge access in conjunction with my inbound ticket, not my outbound ticket. They couldn't see how that was possible or feasible, but I showed them my receipt and pointed out on the website that "Guests must be flying a Virgin America flight within 90 minutes of the hours of operation of the clubhouse to use the facilities." Nothing whatsoever mentioning outbound flights only (and even if there was, I would have qualified with my next flight). Another example of why it pays to carry e-tickets and to know rules relating to priority anything and lounge access!
 
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Right, less typing more pictures! Some photos of the SFO VS CH:


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[size=-2]Bar area[/size]

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[size=-2]Dining area[/size]

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[size=-2]Booze and chips[/size]

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[size=-2]Entree of Portobello Mushroom Soup[/size]

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[size=-2]Main of Zucchini Frittata[/size]

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[size=-2]Dessert of Apple Crumble with Vanilla Bean Ice-cream
(om nom nom nom)[/size]
 
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As you can see -- the lounge was fantastic! Absolutely worth every last penny of the USD $35 it cost me. It's such a shame that with the terminal move, the lounge won't be available any more (and VX aren't doing anything to replace it IIRC).

I have a small confession to make .. I don't remember too much of the flights that followed that evening, and it's entirely possible that I shouldn't have been allowed to board the VX flight down to LAX..! The one thing that I do remember quite clearly is that walking the 20 metres from gate to service desk to collect my VA boarding pass while attempting to hide the amount of carry-on I had (rather than having to go back out to the main check-in desks and through security again) was kind of awesome :)

The AS lounge at LAX T3 is pretty average (no showers! :(), but not too bad for what is really a US domestic lounge being pressed in to international service.

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No photos or description of the flight back home, I'm afraid -- I more or less passed out after take off and snoozed on and off the whole way home. The crew weren't as friendly as they were on the way over, but I really didn't mind for some reason.. ;)

Trip report ends here! But, allow me to collect my thoughts and organise my photos on the flight back over to LA yesterday afternoon .. it was a stand-out flight, so I'll need some time to do it justice! :)
 
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I thought this had actually been confirmed...? Unsurprising really if they are ripping it out.

- Bar not utilized heavily
- Bar service can be replicated by the trolley dollies (if you get a good crew!)
- Bar space can earn $ with seats and V Aus is still struggling, needs every cent it can get
- I spoke to a V Aus FA who said they actually had more complaints than compliments about the bar (too noisy, annoying foot traffic, lack of selection etc). May just have been put in the too hard basket??

I would be thoroughly disappointed if they removed the whY+ and J bars. It's a real point of difference for VA, and (for me) a compelling reason to choose to fly with them.
 
Great TR! I liked the shout-outs to QF009, who sets a high standard of TR but always makes me feel I should visit a liquor barn soonish.

I don't think I've ever landed or taken off at LAX anything but east-west (landing over the city, leaving over the ocean). The city is an awesome sight at night, somewhat depressing in the day.

Not my favorite city or airport by a long chalk. Seattle rates far higher with me.

I liked your emphasis on the details (with pix). It's the little things that make a difference. The Virgin people do seem to have an emphasis on style, whereas QF and AA are stodgier in comparison. Not quite so cute.

I'm off travelling next week - SYD-SFO for five weeks of driving - and I'm determined to be a better correspondent this time around. Usually I'm excellent on the first couple of legs, and then I run out of time and internet and decide to catch up when I get home and I might as well be honest at that point and say, well that's your lot!

On the subject of booze, my daughter (who will be travelling with me on this trip) and I once parked at the BA Champagne Bar at T5 for a couple of hours before our Y trip to Dulles. By the time boarding arrived we were feeling no pain, and giggled our way aboard via a shuttle bus. Daughter, who loves flying, especially takeoffs, fell asleep about as soon as she buckled her seatbelt and didn't wake up until somewhere south of Iceland. I blame Keith.
 
LOL thank you for all the shout-outs! :oops:

Fab TR! I wish they'd have their own international lounges with their signature hip, Virgin flair but they probably don't have enough international traffic atm to justify the outlay.

Would you happen to have more pics of the whY+ cabin? :) The cutlery looks decidedly inferior (read: cheap) to that of QF whY+. But if the savings are really that great I wouldn't really care either.

Replace DJ with VX and I'll happily fly Virgin over QF any day! They make QF seem stodgy.... (though I do find QF more relaxed and design-focussed than most other airlines).

Agree with you on W Seattle... it's getting a little long in the tooth and in need of a refurb. But they did give me a WOW Suite, and apparently only beaten to the Extreme WOW by another Platinum because he and his wife were on a honeymoon. Look forward to your thoughts on the W Hollywood!!
 
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I wish they'd have their own international lounges with their signature hip, Virgin flair but they probably don't have enough international traffic atm to justify the outlay.

You and me both! Now that they're using the Koru Club lounges in .au, they have quite the acceptable lounge product - but LAX is pretty dire. Given that both VA and VS fly there, this really needs to be fixed sooner rather than later!

Would you happen to have more pics of the whY+ cabin? :) The cutlery looks decidedly inferior (read: cheap) to that of QF whY+. But if the savings are really that great I wouldn't really care either.

That's basically the pick of the bunch at the moment -- I'm flying back whY+ on Sunday night, so will endeavor to take moar photos then .. is there anything in particular you wanted to see?

And yes, the cutlery is atrocious. My complaint was noted on the flight and I followed it up with a feedback e-mail last week; not holding my breath but I hope it gets changed. I don't have a problem with plastic cutlery per se, but at the same time I don't want to be concerned that the knife or fork might snap while I'm using them!
 
That's basically the pick of the bunch at the moment -- I'm flying back whY+ on Sunday night, so will endeavor to take moar photos then .. is there anything in particular you wanted to see?

A general cabin shot would be nice. So we can see what cabin ambience is like. TIA! :)
 
BTW we're planning a trip to MLE with MH in J... that lounge in MEL looks really rough. Not that SQ's broom cupboard is any better (and in fact the SQ option is way more expensive albeit with better schedules though using a combo of miles and cash to go in F on the long haul is tempting). Looks like we'll do as you did and sit around at Cafe Vue.
 
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Good one notzac. (Portland, l must add that to my trip later this year)

I also questioned the white leather in F in QF009's report and Liam said that they didn't look too shabby. l think that anything in white needs an extra amount of care so that it doesn't look worn/aged/used as every little mark tends to show up more than on darker colours.
 
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