US Dividend Miles - Award Booking Questions and General Discussion

[smit0847]

?????????!!!!

Ok, I have missed him. I find his tales very entertaining.

 

[anat0l]

Ok, I have missed him. I find his tales very entertaining.

And I would say, you are <expletive> crazy... :-|

 

[davem]

Call in the evening Australian time and write down the name of the operator when they answer. If you dont like what they say, HUACA immediately - its extremely unlikely you'll get the same operator twice (check their name against the names you have written down).

1pm Sue - We are not booking flights for 2015 yet - 2 min call
1pm ??? - We don't fly to Guam - 2 min call
1pm Tammy (pheonix centre) - 30k sounds too low, I'm going to try everything I can to make sure I won't ticket (She went to supervisor) - 37 mins
9pm Robyn - "I will find the flights myself" - 2 mins
9pm Sam - MPM exceeded - 6 mins

Will continue. My last Guam trip was booked for 4 people in one phone call (3 different routings).

 

[smit0847]

1pm Sue - We are not booking flights for 2015 yet - 2 min call
1pm ??? - We don't fly to Guam - 2 min call
1pm Tammy (pheonix centre) - 30k sounds too low, I'm going to try everything I can to make sure I won't ticket (She went to supervisor) - 37 mins
9pm Robyn - "I will find the flights myself" - 2 mins
9pm Sam - MPM exceeded - 6 mins

Will continue. My last Guam trip was booked for 4 people in one phone call (3 different routings).

This just shows how inconsistent (and hopeless) the agents are. Did #2 let you tell her the flights yourself?

My experience, my first trip in J
Call 1: 'there's no way to get from Australia to Guam'
Call 2: 'there's no availability on any flights'
Call 3: 'if you transit a more expensive region you have to pay the higher rate'
Call 4: 'you can have a stopover but I'll have to charge you the higher region rate'
Call 5: 'sure, I can do a free stopover. That'll be 30k miles'

My second trip, booked in F
Call 1: 'no worries - that'll be 40k as a SWP-SWP'

(I was VERY lucky with the second trip - I wish I'd got her name, she was fantastic)

 

[appaz]

beta award is gone

that was the best site, now back to using united.com or flisea.com (you can add your ANA account to flisea.com and search both ANA & Aeroplan)

 

[smit0847]

beta award is gone

that was the best site, now back to using united.com or flisea.com (you can add your ANA account to flisea.com and search both ANA & Aeroplan)

Oh no! I loved that site!

 

[get me outta here]

[h=1][FONT=Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Yes, sad that is gone. On their website:[/FONT]

To our users:[/h]
It is with regret that AwardTravelr will be temporarily shutdown. Our aim at AwardTravelr has always been to provide frequent flyers world wide with a free and better search tool - allowing them to make full use of their frequent flyer miles. However, due to recent events such as receiving a Cease & Desist letter from United, we have made the decision to discontinue the service.

Thank you for your generous donations and support over the past two years - that kept us running and gave us the ability to cope with increased traffic. Keep checking back on AwardTravelr - we will certainly be relaunching with a better tool in the future!

AwardTravelr Founders

 

[appaz]

Yes, sad that is gone. On their website:

To our users:


It is with regret that AwardTravelr will be temporarily shutdown. Our aim at AwardTravelr has always been to provide frequent flyers world wide with a free and better search tool - allowing them to make full use of their frequent flyer miles. However, due to recent events such as receiving a Cease & Desist letter from United, we have made the decision to discontinue the service.

Thank you for your generous donations and support over the past two years - that kept us running and gave us the ability to cope with increased traffic. Keep checking back on AwardTravelr - we will certainly be relaunching with a better tool in the future!

AwardTravelr Founders

united seem to be fairly ****y! there UI is rubbish yet they have now screwed over expertflyer and betaaward :/

i'm going to use flisea.com i don't want to deal with big companies that push around the little guys

 

[jyflyer]

Hi All,

This is jyflyer from AwardTravelr. We're glad that our site has benefited you guys over the past two years! The site has been a part-time endeavor over the past two years and we're amazed that we've done over 1.2 million searches for the community. As most of you would know, UA data is a valuable asset for our site, so when they sent us a cease & desist letter, we've no choice but to temporarily shut down the site. Rest assured that we're going to reach out to UA to work out some form of agreement; but for now, we will have to fulfill their requests so as to avoid any further legal action from their end. Unfortunately, all of us hold full-time jobs outside of AwardTravelr and I am in the middle of relocating from Seattle to Singapore - so it might take some time for the site to be up again. Nonetheless, I'll be trying my best

Thanks for your support so far.

jyflyer

 

[get me outta here]

Thanks jyflyer, it was an heroic effort and to do a full time job as well. Many of us made very good use of your info. Hope to see you again soon.

Hi All,

This is jyflyer from AwardTravelr.

 

[legroom]

Hi All,

This is jyflyer from AwardTravelr. We're glad that our site has benefited you guys over the past two years! The site has been a part-time endeavor over the past two years and we're amazed that we've done over 1.2 million searches for the community. As most of you would know, UA data is a valuable asset for our site, so when they sent us a cease & desist letter, we've no choice but to temporarily shut down the site. Rest assured that we're going to reach out to UA to work out some form of agreement; but for now, we will have to fulfill their requests so as to avoid any further legal action from their end. Unfortunately, all of us hold full-time jobs outside of AwardTravelr and I am in the middle of relocating from Seattle to Singapore - so it might take some time for the site to be up again. Nonetheless, I'll be trying my best

Thanks for your support so far.

jyflyer

Thank you for a fantastic job

From a donor to your site !

 

[anat0l]

Heads Up! (I hope)

This kind of news looks rather encouraging. I sincerely hope this is not a hype trip over a cliff.

If it's all apples, then it's great timing with the current Buy Miles promotion.

US Airways: earn & burn for Oneworld and Star Alliance from March 30 - Flights | hotels | frequent flyer | business class - Australian Business Traveller

I'm trying to look for some corroborating information on Flyertalk, but at the time of this posting I can't find anything.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Re: Heads Up! (I hope)

This kind of news looks rather encouraging. I sincerely hope this is not a hype trip over a cliff.

If it's all apples, then it's great timing with the current Buy Miles promotion.

US Airways: earn & burn for Oneworld and Star Alliance from March 30 - Flights | hotels | frequent flyer | business class - Australian Business Traveller

I'm trying to look for some corroborating information on Flyertalk, but at the time of this posting I can't find anything.

It's no different to what we already know. The list of star partners has been around for a while, and the ability to redeem on oneworld carriers (aside from AA metal) is not expected on 1 April itself (but some as yet undefined period after).

 

[smit0847]

Re: Heads Up! (I hope)

It's no different to what we already know. The list of star partners has been around for a while, and the ability to redeem on oneworld carriers (aside from AA metal) is not expected on 1 April itself (but some as yet undefined period after).

This article is pretty vague on the most important part of the merge for us - from what date can you redeem DM for OW flights? The article says March 31 but I will eat my hat if this is true - I highly doubt their systems will be in place in time.

I assume even though there are continuing US *A codeshare partnerships you will not be able to do a mixed *A and OW redemption as those airlines wont necesarilly have interline agreements? If so, as great as the continuing codeshares are, with no TG and UA, and SQ's restrictions there are very few ways to get out of Australia!

 

[burmans]

Re: Heads Up! (I hope)

This kind of news looks rather encouraging. I sincerely hope this is not a hype trip over a cliff.

If it's all apples, then it's great timing with the current Buy Miles promotion.

US Airways: earn & burn for Oneworld and Star Alliance from March 30 - Flights | hotels | frequent flyer | business class - Australian Business Traveller

I'm trying to look for some corroborating information on Flyertalk, but at the time of this posting I can't find anything.

Agree with Mel_traveller, there has been a lot of speculation but this post largely only relies on what US have actually told us aside from the assumption US current chart will apply. Given no replacement chart has been published that is in fact a reasonable assumption except from the fact that that chart explicitly refers to Star Alliance awards.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Re: Heads Up! (I hope)

This article is pretty vague on the most important part of the merge for us - from what date can you redeem DM for OW flights? The article says March 31 but I will eat my hat if this is true - I highly doubt their systems will be in place in time.

I assume even though there are continuing US *A codeshare partnerships you will not be able to do a mixed *A and OW redemption as those airlines wont necesarilly have interline agreements? If so, as great as the continuing codeshares are, with no TG and UA, and SQ's restrictions there are very few ways to get out of Australia!

one of the many statements by US/AA says specifically that earning will be available on oneoworld from 1 April but redemption will not. And there has been no specific date on the redemption other than 'shortly' (or words to that effect).

In the meantime (until oneworld earning is implemented) it looks like you can redeem, as of 1 April... US Airways flights, those star alliance partners continuing with the program, and AA flights.

 

[anat0l]

Re: Heads Up! (I hope)

It's no different to what we already know. The list of star partners has been around for a while, and the ability to redeem on oneworld carriers (aside from AA metal) is not expected on 1 April itself (but some as yet undefined period after).

This article is pretty vague on the most important part of the merge for us - from what date can you redeem DM for OW flights? The article says March 31 but I will eat my hat if this is true - I highly doubt their systems will be in place in time.

I guess you could read the article as there is no new information. But the way it is written can also - and like you, I hope not falsely - imply that the ability to burn on other oneworld carriers will be there on 31 March (or maybe a couple of days after).

I have to confess that I'm on the record too saying that this was not going to happen. I think I also said I'll eat a hat. I probably can't digest fabric, but pain aside it would be very good if the ability to burn on oneworld were to happen almost straight away.

I see smit0847 has already questioned the original article; I can't find anything on FT, AA, US or ow yet to confirm or deny this information. I'm assuming AusBT isn't just rehashing information either, since an article announcing "what we know" has already been published previously (since we knew this for at least a month or two now), so that's why I took it to be significantly new information.

I assume even though there are continuing US *A codeshare partnerships you will not be able to do a mixed *A and OW redemption as those airlines wont necesarilly have interline agreements? If so, as great as the continuing codeshares are, with no TG and UA, and SQ's restrictions there are very few ways to get out of Australia!

I would too assume there will be no combined *A and ow redemptions, though it is not completely out of the question to have carriers on the same itinerary with no interline agreement (it would certainly be unusual, though).

I guess once US leaves *A, with the limited carriers remaining with continuing agreements, it would only be CA, BR, NZ and SQ... and you mention SQ's limiting factors, plus NZ almost always has no longhaul J (except limited to PVG), and ditto the last point on BR (with only one entry point to Australia, BNE). From the ow side it's not too bad, with QF, CX and BA (notwithstanding possible YQ on BA redemptions, hopefully not crossing into US DM); CX is particularly easy to get seats.

 

[bcworld]

Re: Heads Up! (I hope)

I guess once US leaves *A, with the limited carriers remaining with continuing agreements, it would only be CA, BR, NZ and SQ... and you mention SQ's limiting factors, plus NZ almost always has no longhaul J (except limited to PVG), and ditto the last point on BR (with only one entry point to Australia, BNE). From the ow side it's not too bad, with QF, CX and BA (notwithstanding possible YQ on BA redemptions, hopefully not crossing into US DM); CX is particularly easy to get seats.

Don't assume that these continuing relationships are long term...US has already chopped the original list in it's communications and I believe BR is no longer on it as the relationship ends very shortly after 31 March.. I think I also read elsewhere that the NZ/US relationship (as useless as it may be to us) ends in June. So some of these relationships will exist on March 31 but no for much longer.

US Airways - Star Alliance - Airpoints - Air New Zealand - Australia Site

It has recently been announced that US Airways will be leaving the Star Alliance on 30 March 2014 and the frequent flyer partnerships between Airpoints and US Airways will end on 29 June 2014.

2014-03-06 Termination of the Frequent Flyer Program partnership with US Airways (US) - EVA Air | America

We sincerely appreciate your consistent support of EVA Air. As US Airways already announced that it will secede from the Star Alliance on March 30, 2014, therefore, we are regretful to inform you that the Frequent Flyer Program partnership between EVA Airways (BR) and US Airways (US) will be terminated effective from May 15, 2014.

 

[smit0847]

Re: Heads Up! (I hope)

AusBT have specifically advised me that OW redemptions with DMs will be available from 31 March. I doubt this will actually happen.

 

[appaz]

Re: Heads Up! (I hope)

AusBT have specifically advised me that OW redemptions with DMs will be available from 31 March. I doubt this will actually happen.

hmmm i have an account with 100% bonus miles... with nothing in my account at the moment i'm tempted to buy up for june/july 2015 :O

decisions, decisions!