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Same as me, almost 10 years VA Platinum including long haul EY/QR/SQ almost every year, now VA decide to say that my loyalty isn't good enough due to a new metric they've decided to introduce (also similar for the people that relied on Family Pooling).''To recognise the loyalty of our members over the past decade, all Status Credits earned since 1 February 2013 will be counted when calculating eligibility for Forever Gold.
To qualify for Forever Gold, you must have earned at least 12,000 Status Credits, with a minimum of 9,000 Status Credits earned on eligible Virgin Australia marketed flights flown by you''
So - been non-stop Platinum since before 2013, and I have often booked Etihad and SQ and Hong Kong Airlines long haul Biz Class flights on EH and SQ websites etc, as frankly they were simpler to deal with many times.
Sometimes I booked direct with Virgin - it made no difference to us - the SC were all I was seeking.
Added my Velocity number to the booking, and the miles and SC all accrued the same to Velocity, as if I booked on Virgin sites. There was no good reason to have used the Virgin site. It was all the same.
So they seem to be now saying - 11 years later, THOSE bookings do not count??? Are they 'Virgin marketed flights' For these calculations?? If not, they should be. Who is to know in 10 years time they'll come up with this crazy wording?
After reading all the rules and fine print, this is now the thing I’m keen to find out. It would seem incongruous to not allow VA earned SCs which were pooled to you and then also not count those you earned but pooled to someone else.Question: they state that flights from pooling won’t earn for the recipient, but what about the donor, that did the actual flying?
Or do these just vanish for both the donor and recipient?
Same as me, almost 10 years VA Platinum including long haul EY/QR/SQ almost every year, now VA decide to say that my loyalty isn't good enough due to a new metric they've decided to introduce (also similar for the people that relied on Family Pooling).
I'd understand if they just separated VA and non VA/partner credits moving forward, but to tell customers who have been loyal and followed the rules (that were set by VA!) that their previous loyalty doesn't really count is quite frankly insulting.
Here's a solution, count every previous Status Credit from a certain date (say today) as a VA credit no matter how it was earned to keep current customers happy.
And then say moving forward you need 12k SC with 9k SC either on a VA ticket from today OR earnt by any method before today. This would be a way to keep people purchasing VA tickets moving forward but not annoy your customers who have been following the rules (and spending the most $$).
in the bit you quoted it says that all SC earned in the past from 2013 will count, but then it says you’re only going to be allowed to count 3000 on non-VA flights.So they seem to be now saying - 11 years later, THOSE bookings do not count??? Are they 'Virgin marketed flights' For these calculations?? If not, they should be. Who is to know in 10 years time they'll come up with this crazy wording
Pretty ordinary compared to QF LTS/G/P!in the bit you quoted it says that all SC earned in the past from 2013 will count, but then it says you’re only going to be allowed to count 3000 on non-VA flights.
Contradictory, but 3000 out of 13,000 is a pretty big chunk to be able to count.
Pretty ordinary compared to QF LTS/G/P!
Yep, that’s my point!QF requirement is 0%. There’s an edge case where someone was Bronze all their life but then gets LTS and LTG. Without ever setting foot on a QF aircraft or giving a cent to QF.
Depends if you consider SC fall within Loyalty as the points collector was spun Orf from VA1.0 and survived the bankruptcyPlaying devil’s advocate here.
This is VA 2.0 which is post 2020. They do not have to include any SCs during VA 1.0 at all for the Forever Gold calculation. So maybe VA (2.0) is actually generous?
After all, they want people have something to aim for. If a lot of people already get Forever Gold due to flying on partner airlines during VA1.0, then they will simply stop flying VA going forward, and which defeats the purpose of Forever Gold?
Pretty ordinary compared to QF LTS/G/P!
I suspect the number of pax with 12,000 SC in 10 years under these current guidelines will be VERRRRY few. A high bar already.
And of those, most will be serious road warriors who will qualify for the new Platinum Plus level already, and will not be stopping flying Virgin with that cool card in their pocket.
Depends if you consider SC fall within Loyalty as the points collector was spun Orf from VA1.0 and survived the bankruptcy
Of course there’s a lot of punters midstream who want something to show for their longevity flying with VA & partners