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The Warlock said:
In some respects you do get what you deserve when you drink a one year old Shiraz.
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True that. I had the Ulithorne double-decanted and aired over 6 hours before tasting it over 3 days. It was dead the first day and excellent on the third. Delicious, quality fruit and oak. I've put it in the Drink-from-2018 spot, and I think even then it'd need a good 8 hour airing.
 
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redbigot said:
"Youthful" is quite different to "unbalanced".

If a wine is unbalanced when young it will seldom come into balance when cellared.

But you need to understand the difference between characters in a young wine like "prominent oak" or "firm tannins" that do not make it "out of balance" if the fruit is sufficient and the acid in sync. It does take time and practice to be able to assess young wines for cellaring purposes and I still make some mistakes, but not as many as I did in the early days.

Sometimes a year or two in bottle does let a wine settle and raw edges soften, but generally if you are cellaring a rough under-$20 young red you are likely to be disappointed.
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My point quite simply is that I've never had a Shiraz of any standard or pricepoint that was worse with three years of age on it than it was with just one. I have one bottle of the Famillia from a mixed pack that I will at least wait until next winter to drink. I agree that if I had 6/12 bottle of any wine that I would try one immediately, but then I would never have bought either 6 or 12 of this wine to cellar.
 
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redbigot said:
"Youthful" is quite different to "unbalanced".

If a wine is unbalanced when young it will seldom come into balance when cellared.

But you need to understand the difference between characters in a young wine like "prominent oak" or "firm tannins" that do not make it "out of balance" if the fruit is sufficient and the acid in sync. It does take time and practice to be able to assess young wines for cellaring purposes and I still make some mistakes, but not as many as I did in the early days.

Sometimes a year or two in bottle does let a wine settle and raw edges soften, but generally if you are cellaring a rough under-$20 young red you are likely to be disappointed.
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I would have loved some "raw edges" in the Familia!

Kjav said:
True that. I had the Ulithorne double-decanted and aired over 6 hours before tasting it over 3 days. It was dead the first day and excellent on the third. Delicious, quality fruit and oak. I've put it in the Drink-from-2018 spot, and I think even then it'd need a good 8 hour airing.
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Didn't decant but did drink over 3 days and was just as disheartened as on the first, I bought a case based on a variety of viewpoints and am happy to have seen the back of it....

The Warlock said:
My point quite simply is that I've never had a Shiraz of any standard or pricepoint that was worse with three years of age on it than it was with just one. I have one bottle of the Famillia from a mixed pack that I will at least wait until next winter to drink. I agree that if I had 6/12 bottle of any wine that I would try one immediately, but then I would never have bought either 6 or 12 of this wine to cellar.
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Equally I've had wine from the 2015 vintage that was eminently drinkable upon first tasting and didn't require laying down to take it to the next level (sometimes the addition of few years only offers infinitesimal rewards, in other cases quantum leaps).
 
kevviek said:
Todays Black Market Shiraz from the Adeliade Hills looks like Chain of Ponds The Ledge. Previous vintages get good reviews, 96 pts each, still selling for >$30 around the traps. No info that I can find on this one and the RRP is below previous vintages, so I'm wondering....
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I think it is Chain of Ponds The Ledge Shiraz. From what I have been told on the grapevine, it is not quite up to the same quality as the 2012 and 2013 vintages, hence the price drop. I think I'll give it a miss
 
Whining&dining said:
OK pundits and procurers what the heck is the Margaret River Cab Sav on offer at the moment?? https://vinomofo.com/wines/red-wine/black-market-deal-cabernet-sauvignon-2012-50b4c8b9 Happy to do my own detective work as it says "brand new" but....
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Bit of guesswork, but the VM blurb makes it sound a bit like the Driftwood Artifacts. Haven't seen their wines through VM before though.

http://www.driftwoodwines.com.au/wp...twood-Artifacts-2012-Cab-Sauv-TastingNote.pdf

Currently enjoying the Pertaringa 2014 Understudy Cabernet, well worth the $10 per btl. Would buy another dozen but am trying to reduce, not increase the size of the cellar!

https://vinomofo.com/wines/red-wine/mof_-contraband-deal-cabernet-sauvignon-2014
 
Bonzai said:
Bit of guesswork, but the VM blurb makes it sound a bit like the Driftwood Artifacts. Haven't seen their wines through VM before though.

http://www.driftwoodwines.com.au/wp...twood-Artifacts-2012-Cab-Sauv-TastingNote.pdf

Currently enjoying the Pertaringa 2014 Understudy Cabernet, well worth the $10 per btl. Would buy another dozen but am trying to reduce, not increase the size of the cellar!

https://vinomofo.com/wines/red-wine/mof_-contraband-deal-cabernet-sauvignon-2014
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Holy cough I think you've nailed it well done!! I'll have to do a quick bit of reckoning and work out whether I can part with a few more bills (not that it isn't quite affordable) after having only just ordered the The Hart of the Barossa Shiraz-I'm become very partial to a fine-tuned Maggie Cab Sav!

AnonymousCoward said:
3 Oceans The Explorers.
Edit - scratch that - only got JH92

Edit2: I think Bonzai is right
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It's like an episode of Sale of the Century in here tonight folks!

Damn, my fat fingers have netted me another red for future delectation, non, je ne regrette rien....
 
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WineNot said:
I think it is Chain of Ponds The Ledge Shiraz. From what I have been told on the grapevine, it is not quite up to the same quality as the 2012 and 2013 vintages, hence the price drop. I think I'll give it a miss
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Well, based on the history of the wine (good reviews going way back), I figured it was worth $11.50 and boomed it.....when it arrives I'm putting a note on the share-a-case thread for anyone in Melbourne bayside or able to collect from the CBD.
 
kevviek said:
Well, based on the history of the wine (good reviews going way back), I figured it was worth $11.50 and boomed it.....when it arrives I'm putting a note on the share-a-case thread for anyone in Melbourne bayside or able to collect from the CBD.
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Hi Kevviek, Please give me a nudge when you get it. Im in bayside Melbourne.

Thanks!
 
redbigot said:
I'll write up the flight tomorrow, but the Legacy looks like a keeper.

All the III Associates wines took some time in the glass to show their best, but the Legacy 2013 came a fairly close second to the 2010 Giant Squid Ink and ahead of the 2014/2010 Squid Ink in mine and the group rankings. (Wines tasted single blind, identities known, but bottles numbered/masked and order unknown).
It's a fairly big, oaky, tannic wine, it had a bit of a hard edge initially, but after 30-40 minutes the fruit was singing and the hard edge gone. If you want to drink it soon, give it plenty of air.
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Based on this I just bought six, although may be a few years before I pop one. Good work on the blind tasting.
 
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blackcat20 said:
New deal includes the 2015 Serrat SV and Pinots...
https://vinomofo.com/wines/mixed-case/the-chairman-s-collection
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was just about to post myself :)

6pk $299 ($49.83/bt):

Serrat Yarra Valley Pinot Noir 2015
Dauvergne & Ranvier Face Sud Rhone Valley Shiraz Blend 2012
Willunga 100 Wines The Tithing McLaren Vale Grenache 2013 - 89pts Winefront
Moppity Reserve Hilltops Cabernet Sauvignon 2014 - 91pts Winefront
Hutton Vale Eden Valley Shiraz 2012 - 93+pts Winefront
Serrat Yarra Valley Shiraz Blend 2015

3 very good, 1 good/average, 2 very average wines?
 
qaz said:
was just about to post myself :)

6pk $299 ($49.83/bt):

Serrat Yarra Valley Pinot Noir 2015
Dauvergne & Ranvier Face Sud Rhone Valley Shiraz Blend 2012
Willunga 100 Wines The Tithing McLaren Vale Grenache 2013 - 89pts Winefront
Moppity Reserve Hilltops Cabernet Sauvignon 2014 - 91pts Winefront
Hutton Vale Eden Valley Shiraz 2012 - 93+pts Winefront
Serrat Yarra Valley Shiraz Blend 2015

3 very good, 1 good/average, 2 very average wines?
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And actually a mark-up for the two Serrat wines... rather than a discount. I know nothing about the RRP of the others however.
 

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