Virgin Australia B737 Max 8

[AIRwin]

Legend. Turns out I was booked on VA920 and just upgraded to business.

Trip report please!

 

[Harrison_133]

Thu 20 Jul: VA920 BNESYD, VA931 SYDBNE, VA950 BNESYD, VA957 SYDBNE

Can add Fri 21 Jul too: VA308 BNEMEL, VA321 MELBNE, VA332 BNEMEL, VA341 MELBNE

 

[AIRwin]

Can add Fri 21 Jul too: VA308 BNEMEL, VA321 MELBNE, VA332 BNEMEL, VA341 MELBNE

Looks like @Roflco won't have a chance to MAX-imise on his return...

 

[AIRwin]

VA785 BNE-CNS on Sat 29 Jul will also be operated by the MAX so it can take over Tokyo from the 30th.

Looks like it'll either be VA799 on 21 July or VA771/775 on 22 July itself for the MAX taking over HND?

 

[AIRwin]

Thu 20 Jul: VA920 BNESYD, VA931 SYDBNE, VA950 BNESYD, VA957 SYDBNE

VA960 BNESYD, VA973 SYDBNE

 

[BNEFlyer]

Looks like it'll either be VA799 on 21 July or VA771/775 on 22 July itself for the MAX taking over HND?

According to FlightRadar24, on 21 July VH-8IA is scheduled to do two BNE-MEL returns and VA77 is due to be operated by VH-VBZ.

 

[Harrison_133]

Looks like it'll either be VA799 on 21 July or VA771/775 on 22 July itself for the MAX taking over HND?

Updated now. VA771 on the 22nd.

 

[Bagpuss]

Does anyone know when the second 737-8 is due to arrive?

 

[twinaisle]

Harrison_133 and AIRwin seem to know so I'll let them answer it.

 

[Harrison_133]

Does anyone know when the second 737-8 is due to arrive?

The schedules currently list 11 September for 737-8 service on Brisbane - Cairns & Brisbane - Perth, but again subject to change.

The second, VH-8IB, has a line number of 8724. If it’s any indication, the highest line number for a MAX delivery so far is LN 8703 to Ryanair. I can’t imagine it will be too far off the production line.

 

[Saab34]

This site is helpful for tracking new builds.

I’d expect it in service 5-6 weeks post the first photo surfacing.

KPAE Paine Field

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[AIRwin]

Monkeying around on the new MAX Monkey Mia!

 

[Bagpuss]

Monkeying around on the new MAX Monkey Mia!
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Amazing that the ownership tags etc. always look old

 

[antycbr]

Amazing that the ownership tags etc. always look old

Given how long VA and Boeing took to get this Max order into the air, they are old!

 

[encryptededdy]

by the way, what's the reason behind "Virgin Australia Airlines Pty Ltd" and "Virgin Australia International Airlines Pty Ltd" being seperate companies? I don't believe this is the case for Qantas, AirNZ, etc. for international operations (except Jetconnect I suppose)

 

[HS-TQE]

by the way, what's the reason behind "Virgin Australia Airlines Pty Ltd" and "Virgin Australia International Airlines Pty Ltd" being seperate companies? I don't believe this is the case for Qantas, AirNZ, etc. for international operations (except Jetconnect I suppose)

Due to ownership regulations for Australian carriers flying internationally. As the parent company VAH is a foreign owned company, they need to establish a 'separate' subsidiary for international rights, hence 'VAi', and the international subsidiary has to be 51% locally owned for international traffic rights.

Thus why VAi is only 49% foreign owned by Bain, and the 51% is owned by "Australian institutional investors", or in other words the VAi subsidiary is just a collection of 'filing cabinets' for paperwork purposes in the VAH offices in BNE.

VA1.0 and AN also used this method (51% owned by Australian 'shell companies'/investors) to retain their international rights during the parent company's time of foreign ownership.

 

[Bagpuss]

Due to ownership regulations for Australian carriers flying internationally. As the parent company VAH is a foreign owned company, they need to establish a 'separate' subsidiary for international rights, hence 'VAi', and the international subsidiary has to be 51% locally owned for international traffic rights.

Thus why VAi is only 49% foreign owned by Bain, and the 51% is owned by "Australian institutional investors", or in other words the VAi subsidiary is just a collection of 'filing cabinets' for paperwork purposes in the VAH offices in BNE.

VA1.0 and AN also used this method (51% owned by Australian 'shell companies'/investors) to retain their international rights during the parent company's time of foreign ownership.

Learn something new every day.

Also MUFG Bank is Japan's largest bank

 

[AIRwin]

The schedules currently list 11 September for 737-8 service on Brisbane - Cairns

There is also a one-off CNS-BNE service (VA775) on 5 September and BNE-CNS (VA780) on 6 September

 

[Tom/PER]

MAX8 -8IA has been operating on the HND route seemingly flawlessly for a week now, any insight or data on recent load factors and overall performance compared to the 73G’s?

 

[justinbrett]

Due to ownership regulations for Australian carriers flying internationally. As the parent company VAH is a foreign owned company, they need to establish a 'separate' subsidiary for international rights, hence 'VAi', and the international subsidiary has to be 51% locally owned for international traffic rights.

Thus why VAi is only 49% foreign owned by Bain, and the 51% is owned by "Australian institutional investors", or in other words the VAi subsidiary is just a collection of 'filing cabinets' for paperwork purposes in the VAH offices in BNE.

VA1.0 and AN also used this method (51% owned by Australian 'shell companies'/investors) to retain their international rights during the parent company's time of foreign ownership.

The difference being regulation applies to Australian airlines flying internationally, but also specifically Qantas Airways Limited (the company) - so QF doesn't have the luxury of doing what VA does with a shonky international subsidiary. The parent company of QF must maintain majority Australian owned