Virgin Blue Unveils Red Leather ‘premium Economy’ A Seat With A Difference

[brett-au]

I'm sorry but I'm going to be one of the people voicing my opinion against this.

My company has a pretty strict policy for business class, especially on such short flights. I enjoyed travelling in a blue zone seat and the $30 charge was easy to hide under the radar.

I had hoped that with the introduction of silver and gold, Virgin could have followed in the footsteps of United. Extra leg room for those who are gold, then silver or people who wish to buy the fancy corporate fares. One row of seats could have given 6 rows an extra 5 inches (1x 30" pitch removed).

In addition to this, the crew would have a list of gold flyers and offer them things like
- free news paper
- free inflight tv
- a free beer (which appears to feature heavily in the qantas citiflyer ads)

This division will make it more like business class on Qantas/Air NZ where its more likely to fly with an empty seat then to bump someone up as Virgin do with their blue zone today.

jso

 

[Yada Yada]

Still, it would be nice to know what happened. :evil:

I asked admin because I had posted a number of messages in the thread and then it just vanished. As crazydave mentioned, it was pulled because it was deemed commercial.

There were some good posts and discussed in that thread.

 

[ANstar]

Does anyone else find it amusing that an innocuous thread informing us of a new product that I'm sure we're all interested in is pulled for being "commercial' while sitting here looking at ads for compression socks, luggage tags, Commonwealth Bank, ANZ bank, Earth credit card, etc, etc, etc

Yeah, yeah, I know the ads help to support this site but IMO admin has been a tad overzealous and I for one, appreciate crazydave's 'inside info'.

In total agreement....

 

[Yada Yada]

Does anyone else find it amusing that an innocuous thread informing us of a new product that I'm sure we're all interested in is pulled for being "commercial' while sitting here looking at ads for compression socks, luggage tags, Commonwealth Bank, ANZ bank, Earth credit card, etc, etc, etc

Yeah, yeah, I know the ads help to support this site but IMO admin has been a tad overzealous and I for one, appreciate crazydave's 'inside info'.

Well I've just responded to admin because I am really p!ssed off. I cannot be bothered posting here if it can all be deleted like that without warning. What a complete waste of time.

Surely anything considered offending could have been removed while leaving everything else intact? One of the mods was posting in that thread so it's not like any of the rest of us plebs could have assumed that the thread was in any way out of line.

 

[moa999]

And I don't think it was that inside info given it had been announced at the AGM. Thought it was a fairly valid discussion

 

[dajop]

Perhaps this thread should be pulled as well, how do we know that OP isn't a Virgin Blue employee lurking on the site? I agree perhaps the offending post should be removed and remaining commentary in tact. It wasn't as if the entire thread was 100% gushing in complements for DJ. How do we know some of the detractors weren't QF lurkers? I suppose a line in the sand has to be drawn somewhere though.

 

[admin]

Well I've just responded to admin because I am really p!ssed off. I cannot be bothered posting here if it can all be deleted like that without warning. What a complete waste of time.

I did receive a PM from Yada Yada and replied to him. This was my response:

This is actually the 1st time I have deleted a (non spam/non racist/non offensive) thread in all these years. I acted as soon as I was aware of the thread, which was about 4 hours after it was started. I would have preferred for it to be immediate, but unfortunately, that wasn't to be.

Unfortuantely, there is no way to recover the deleted postings.

I understand your frustrations, and am sorry that I had to delete the many valid and informative postings. But from a commercial perspective, I had no choice.

Again, apologies for any inconvenience.

Thanks for your understanding.

 

[Sequel]

Sounds like the DJ Y+ seats will be exactly the same as the QF 734 J seats, only nicer, cheaper, with personal TV, young, smiling hosties and acces to a lounge that has more than standing room only. Thats got to be a winner!

 

[ColinP]

I did receive a PM from Yada Yada and replied to him. This was my response:

This is actually the 1st time I have deleted a (non spam/non racist/non offensive) thread in all these years. I acted as soon as I was aware of the thread, which was about 4 hours after it was started. I would have preferred for it to be immediate, but unfortunately, that wasn't to be.

Unfortuantely, there is no way to recover the deleted postings.

I understand your frustrations, and am sorry that I had to delete the many valid and informative postings. But from a commercial perspective, I had no choice.

Again, apologies for any inconvenience.

Thanks for your understanding.

I'm still a little confused.
Was the post pulled because of the content or because of who posted it?
As Dajop has pointed out, this OP is very similar to the offending one.
I honestly can't remember exactly what was in the deleted OP but I don't remember thinking " Geez! That's a blatant plug for Virgin Blue."

I'd better shut up now. I'm only a few posts short of 100 and don't want to get banned before becoming a "posting freak"

 

[ANstar]

I'm still a little confused.
Was the post pulled because of the content or because of who posted it?
As Dajop has pointed out, this OP is very similar to the offending one.

Well it certainly sounds like it is because of who posted it.... if that is the case it is a load of rubbish and will only stop the indsiders posting any more info for us! As for it being a commerical decision, I still find that hard to believe as here we are talking about the seats, but now probably in more detail.

 

[crazydave98]

Here are a few photos of the detail of seat (in blue covers) - done as a demo for us at a trade show in Hong Kong. They show pretty well how the arm rests of the centre seat move inwards when the tray table comes down to give extra width to the remaining seats. I mentioned in the deleted thread that these are the same Recaro seats used by Lufthansa as J class for intra-Europe flights. I have a photo of our gorgeous product manager sitting on the tray table in the down position to show it's strength (actually she was bouncing on it) and the interior workings of the seat but they are too big file size. Will post a photo of the complete set in red.
cheers
CrazyDave

 

[crazydave98]

here it is in the actual finish.
CrazyDave98

 

[serfty]

... I have a photo of our gorgeous product manager sitting on the tray table in the down position to show it's strength (actually she was bouncing on it) ...

Remnds me of NM's humorous post about getting a good view.

... I have a photo ... but they are too big file size. ...

Most basic (free?) photo editors can allow image files to be saved as a smaller size.

 

[GCS]

Does anyone think this might be a precursor to *Alliance membership.

 

[codash1099]

Sounds like the DJ Y+ seats will be exactly the same as the QF 734 J seats, only nicer, cheaper, with personal TV, young, smiling hosties and acces to a lounge that has more than standing room only. Thats got to be a winner!

Well, not really. In the QF case, you wound up with a seat that was actually wider IIRC.

 

[oz_mark]

Well, not really. In the QF case, you wound up with a seat that was actually wider IIRC.

From what I can make out of the picture, the seat is slightler wider than a standard DJ economy seat (I say this by what I can see of the positioning of the arm rests). Now as wide as a QF J seat.

 

[codash1099]

From what I can make out of the picture, the seat is slightler wider than a standard DJ economy seat (I say this by what I can see of the positioning of the arm rests). Now as wide as a QF J seat.

If that is actually the case, the middle seat becomes unusable. And if THAT is the case, why have it there at all?

 

[Yada Yada]

Yeah, yeah, I know the ads help to support this site but IMO admin has been a tad overzealous and I for one, appreciate crazydave's 'inside info'.

I've just made my own commercial decision to block all advertising displayed on AFF. :mrgreen:

I think it works faster now!

 

[oz_mark]

If that is actually the case, the middle seat becomes unusable. And if THAT is the case, why have it there at all?

Perhaps, (and it looks as though it may be the case), the armrests have adjustable positions.

 

[oz_mark]

I've just made my own commercial decision to block all advertising displayed on AFF. :mrgreen:

I think it works faster now!

Now you just have to deal with the advertising that comes through in the newsletter carefully worded and crafted to look like a recommendation from the publisher.