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I'm having an experience with a Travel Insurance company which I'd like some opinions on. Its not a biggie, so I won't give the company's name - yet.

Took out a policy for a 2 week domestic trip, incl cruise. Pretty standard T&Cs. Not my usual TI (CoverMore) as I wanted Covid cover and I'd left it too late for CoverMore to cover me for that. This policy did, so all good.

On the trip, I lost my pocket camera - bought abt 6 years ago. I submitted a claim with all the required documentation - incl original receipts and a letter from a tour company relating how I had called them seeing if I had left the camera on their tour (negative). I called the TI and was told a police report wasn't necessary. I was confident of the claim.

Assessment should be 2 weeks. 2 weeks + 2 days I called to check status. Got someone who had trouble finding claim, but did so eventually. Said a bit vaguely that it was 'under assessment' and they would call back later that afternoon with an update.

Got a call back later that afternoon from a 'no caller ID' number. This was a strange call. Sort of danced around the issue, said something about 'act of goodwill' and then they said 'Do you know what your Excess is?' I thought - Is this a quiz? I replied "Yes - $100. What did you mean about 'act of goodwill?" She explained that their standard depreciation rate is 20% but they kindly applied 15%.

Ah. I knew what was coming. Cost of item minus depreciation = very close to $100, my excess, so nothing for me. I'd forgotten about depreciation on claims, and it is in the policy so I had no argument, and so no problem with the decision, give or take a few bucks, which I wasn't going to worry about.

After hanging up, the call just didn't feel right. Surely they e-mail with the claim decision, and it was odd that nothing had happened for over the assessment period, then decided in the hours after my call.

I e-mailed them, asking for the decision in an e-mail, with a statement that the claim had not been denied (so I could answer future insurance questionnaires which ask this question), but no payment is being made because of [calculation]. Not a complaint, just a request for their decision in writing.

Got an e-mail from them the next day, saying the claim was re-assessed and they "had put forward a recommendation for settlement to you."

Am I being too cynical to put: the first call to me denying the claim as being 'strange' and also not a written response, together with a query from me asking for the decision in writing with a consequent promise of a settlement ... all together & concluding something was 'up' with the process? Or maybe, more innocently, when they went to put it in an e-mail, with the calculation, they realised they had used the wrong deprec rate? Even if so, its still a strange experience and I won't be insuring with them again.
 
I'm having an experience with a Travel Insurance company which I'd like some opinions on. Its not a biggie, so I won't give the company's name - yet.

Took out a policy for a 2 week domestic trip, incl cruise. Pretty standard T&Cs. Not my usual TI (CoverMore) as I wanted Covid cover and I'd left it too late for CoverMore to cover me for that. This policy did, so all good.

On the trip, I lost my pocket camera - bought abt 6 years ago. I submitted a claim with all the required documentation - incl original receipts and a letter from a tour company relating how I had called them seeing if I had left the camera on their tour (negative). I called the TI and was told a police report wasn't necessary. I was confident of the claim.

Assessment should be 2 weeks. 2 weeks + 2 days I called to check status. Got someone who had trouble finding claim, but did so eventually. Said a bit vaguely that it was 'under assessment' and they would call back later that afternoon with an update.

Got a call back later that afternoon from a 'no caller ID' number. This was a strange call. Sort of danced around the issue, said something about 'act of goodwill' and then they said 'Do you know what your Excess is?' I thought - Is this a quiz? I replied "Yes - $100. What did you mean about 'act of goodwill?" She explained that their standard depreciation rate is 20% but they kindly applied 15%.

Ah. I knew what was coming. Cost of item minus depreciation = very close to $100, my excess, so nothing for me. I'd forgotten about depreciation on claims, and it is in the policy so I had no argument, and so no problem with the decision, give or take a few bucks, which I wasn't going to worry about.

After hanging up, the call just didn't feel right. Surely they e-mail with the claim decision, and it was odd that nothing had happened for over the assessment period, then decided in the hours after my call.

I e-mailed them, asking for the decision in an e-mail, with a statement that the claim had not been denied (so I could answer future insurance questionnaires which ask this question), but no payment is being made because of [calculation]. Not a complaint, just a request for their decision in writing.

Got an e-mail from them the next day, saying the claim was re-assessed and they "had put forward a recommendation for settlement to you."

Am I being too cynical to put: the first call to me denying the claim as being 'strange' and also not a written response, together with a query from me asking for the decision in writing with a consequent promise of a settlement ... all together & concluding something was 'up' with the process? Or maybe, more innocently, when they went to put it in an e-mail, with the calculation, they realised they had used the wrong deprec rate? Even if so, its still a strange experience and I won't be insuring with them again.
Maybe wait & see what the proposed settlement figure is? How much did you pay 6 yrs ago?
 
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I'm having an experience with a Travel Insurance company which I'd like some opinions on. Its not a biggie, so I won't give the company's name - yet.

Took out a policy for a 2 week domestic trip, incl cruise. Pretty standard T&Cs. Not my usual TI (CoverMore) as I wanted Covid cover and I'd left it too late for CoverMore to cover me for that. This policy did, so all good.

On the trip, I lost my pocket camera - bought abt 6 years ago. I submitted a claim with all the required documentation - incl original receipts and a letter from a tour company relating how I had called them seeing if I had left the camera on their tour (negative). I called the TI and was told a police report wasn't necessary. I was confident of the claim.

Assessment should be 2 weeks. 2 weeks + 2 days I called to check status. Got someone who had trouble finding claim, but did so eventually. Said a bit vaguely that it was 'under assessment' and they would call back later that afternoon with an update.

Got a call back later that afternoon from a 'no caller ID' number. This was a strange call. Sort of danced around the issue, said something about 'act of goodwill' and then they said 'Do you know what your Excess is?' I thought - Is this a quiz? I replied "Yes - $100. What did you mean about 'act of goodwill?" She explained that their standard depreciation rate is 20% but they kindly applied 15%.

Ah. I knew what was coming. Cost of item minus depreciation = very close to $100, my excess, so nothing for me. I'd forgotten about depreciation on claims, and it is in the policy so I had no argument, and so no problem with the decision, give or take a few bucks, which I wasn't going to worry about.

After hanging up, the call just didn't feel right. Surely they e-mail with the claim decision, and it was odd that nothing had happened for over the assessment period, then decided in the hours after my call.

I e-mailed them, asking for the decision in an e-mail, with a statement that the claim had not been denied (so I could answer future insurance questionnaires which ask this question), but no payment is being made because of [calculation]. Not a complaint, just a request for their decision in writing.

Got an e-mail from them the next day, saying the claim was re-assessed and they "had put forward a recommendation for settlement to you."

Am I being too cynical to put: the first call to me denying the claim as being 'strange' and also not a written response, together with a query from me asking for the decision in writing with a consequent promise of a settlement ... all together & concluding something was 'up' with the process? Or maybe, more innocently, when they went to put it in an e-mail, with the calculation, they realised they had used the wrong deprec rate? Even if so, its still a strange experience and I won't be insuring with them again.
One is never to cynical to assume an insurance company is being sleazy or miscalculated return in their favour. Get official written response and check against T&Cs
 
Maybe wait & see what the proposed settlement figure is? How much did you pay 6 yrs ago?

$350, so straight line depreciation at 15% is about $130, so I should be settled abt $30. My quick mental calculation while on the phone said abt $110, which was not worth me chasing on the phone. $30, on the other hand, is a couple of glasses of good Riesling eating out!
 
A lot of the insurance policies have replacement value which I tend to try and go for - I'm assuming you've checked the PDS for this
 
A lot of the insurance policies have replacement value which I tend to try and go for - I'm assuming you've checked the PDS for this

Yes - they list 4 ways they may settle and of course will choose the one that costs them least. I didn't even read this part of the PDS beforehand - I was just after covid cover for my NW Kimberley cruise.
 
Update. I've received a formal letter of settlement attached to an e-mail (as opposed to the phone call previously).

Now applying a depreciation rate of 10% (vs 20%, dropped to 15% before), I get a settlement, taking account the excess, of $109.

The formal letter makes no mention about the prior contact.

I think the process smells very ripe.
 
Probably unrelated though it needs to be shared.

To travel to Fiji you need to take out TI which includes Covid cover. Fiji Care Insurance appears to have a policy that covers all of this, and on the surface seems appropriate for many situations.

Prior to our last trip we had not used this insurance as their duration of availability didn't suit us. Moving forward there are two stories:
  1. In late May and into June friends of ours who many here will know from FT used this policy and had to fight tooth and nail to get their claim paid when one of them caught Covid and had to isolate for 7 days. They eventually got paid but only after threatening to go the the Fiji Government about it.
  2. More recently we took out a policy. They never sent us a policy document so we were denied boarding even though I had proof of purchase by showed the receipt. I had to take another policy to be allowed to travel to Fiji.
Moving forward I have asked Fiji Care Insurance for a refund and they are dragging their feet (polite version) with doing this and I have just sent off another email asking what is occuring.
 
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A lot of the insurance policies have replacement value which I tend to try and go for - I'm assuming you've checked the PDS for this
Hi VPS
I've looked for replacement value travel policies and haven't ever found one. Maybe I haven't looked hard enough. Do you have names that I can check?
 
Hi VPS
I've looked for replacement value travel policies and haven't ever found one. Maybe I haven't looked hard enough. Do you have names that I can check?
Hi I think they have changed because I haven't had any travel insurance for three years. Unfortunately when I was getting insurance for this trip I didn't have much choice because of pre-existing health issues my age and the length of time I'm going to be away
 

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