What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individual ?

[RWJ777]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

Why would QF and DJ play hardball? It is to their benefit that no points are awarded for flights. Less liability accruing and don't have to worry about organisations wanting to redeem them if they were awarded to the payer.

The allure of points distorts behaviours; people travel more often on more circuitous routes to acquire the points for use on future travel or indeed on goods.

 

[amaroo]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

On the way to CBR that is entirely reasonable given the timetable. A random check on flights for next week shows the price difference between direct and via SYD is minimal, in fact some options via SYD are cheaper than some direct options.. I really don't think this is a fair criticism.

The man lives less than 20mins from MCY however refuses to get on any aircraft that operates from there. Plenty of options to SYD or MEL everyday of the week.

I guess the lack of CL comes into play!

 

[Deleted member]

Having worked in the past for a govt agency for 15 years and travelling in that job to the US in J at least 4 times a year, i can tell you that not getting the points hurts!! Zero points in 15 years, yet averaging about 2500 SCs on QF alone. Plenty of corporate friends sending their families on corporate FF point holidays - and my wife getting no benefit for all the travel i did. Made it very hard to justify those trips to the family...

I suppose It's. A Bit like being best actor .....but no Oscar.
Must suck.
Interestingly The SC's still accrue to you though. with some of the enterprising methods of accumulating points, one can only assume that one day you will be lifetime gold ( and have some miles to go with it) while the likes of me even with reasonable miles/points is languishing With lifetime anything a but distant dream !!

 

[Simo]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

So you only have had one business related trip?

I fly for work app once a month give or take but as I own the company I pay for the flights out of my own pocket.

I have had to pay for staff to travel and would like to be able to get the points to the company account.

The staff that have traveled have had no interest in points or SC's or lounges(apart from the free booze).

Normally when I travel for business it is planned meetings over many clients.

The time that I charged them directly for the flight was I want you here on the day it is all happening and I said I am not needed and they demanded me to go to the ISA for the day.

I had already paid for other people to fly out to do the job.

 

[casanovawa]

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By and large public servants get sweet FA perks, rewards and bonuses... Its why here in WA 4-5 years ago while the economy was booming you couldn't give a public service job away while i was listening to my private sector friends talk about their 2-3 wage reviews a year and large pay rises so their companies could keep them and we got our lousy 3-4% negotiated wage rises each year... Then the GFC hit and people started being laid off and having wage rise freezes and then you got everyone piping up about us coddled public servants with our massive 3-4% pay rises each year... Not my friends but the commenters on news sites and all sound like such clowns when they probably could have had a PS job for the taking if they had wanted one several years ago...

And i doubt any PS are doing much J class travel unless they are DGs/CEOs or a PS accompanying them for work purposes... Our DG has made clear that even if industry is funding travel by a dept person they will be going in Y...

And the fact that we are paid for by the public doesn't mean we should have to slum it for the benefit of Joe Public the whole time... The fact that the profits of most corporations are meant to be for the benefit of the shareholders doesn't stop private employees wanting their j class travel... I'm sure they would say its an accepted cost of doing business and hardly all of it would be essential to profit production...

 

[drross]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

I imagine that was in the last year or two. Previously you would have and as you are not employed under the Public service Act were not required to hand them back.

Same experience of status credits, no points for nearly all flights for last 7 years.

 

[The Rok]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

The allure of points distorts behaviours; people travel more often on more circuitous routes to acquire the points for use on future travel or indeed on goods.

No no no no no. AFF members do roundabout routings for points & SC's, the general public are not that smart or dedicated.

In all serious though, I think it would be a calculated risk from QF & DJ that getting more money for the flights and awarding points is actually a better proposition than a flat out discount. For example, how many people fly that do not have FF accounts? How many people fly that accrue the points but simply forget about them and let them expire?

I am guessing that DJ/QF think enough people do not accrue points that it would be more financially viable to award them in lieu of a discount… Not a week goes by where I speak to someone on site who flys weekly, Bi-weekly, or 4 weekly and DOES NOT COLLECT points….

 

[simongr]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

Why would QF and DJ play hardball? It is to their benefit that no points are awarded for flights. Less liability accruing and don't have to worry about organisations wanting to redeem them if they were awarded to the payer.

They would earn higher fares and the points cost is not guaranteed to be used and only used on flights that have less loadings.

I fly for work app once a month give or take but as I own the company I pay for the flights out of my own pocket.

I have had to pay for staff to travel and would like to be able to get the points to the company account.

The staff that have traveled have had no interest in points or SC's or lounges(apart from the free booze).

Normally when I travel for business it is planned meetings over many clients.

The time that I charged them directly for the flight was I want you here on the day it is all happening and I said I am not needed and they demanded me to go to the ISA for the day.

I had already paid for other people to fly out to do the job.

The thing is that although you may not directly recharge your clients for business trips the cost of travel is factored in to your billing rates to the clients.

 

[coyote25]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

No points are awarded, just SCs, pretty simple, and no doubt annoying to the odd public worker.

I can tell you from experience it does. I understand MPs still get to earn and keep the points and status (at least Federally) - different rule for the bosses which is exactly how I'd see CEO doing it for there companies.

 

[Danger]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

I can tell you from experience it does. I understand MPs still get to earn and keep the points and status (at least Federally) - different rule for the bosses which is exactly how I'd see CEO doing it for there companies.

As I noted earlier in this thread, federal MPs do not Qantas or Virgin frequent flyer points as a matter of course. Status is somewhat of a moot point as all are afforded Chairmans Lounge/oneworld Emerald.

 

[coyote25]

As I noted earlier in this thread, federal MPs do not Qantas or Virgin frequent flyer points as a matter of course. Status is somewhat of a moot point as all are afforded Chairmans Lounge/oneworld Emerald.

I stand corrected I knew that they did in recent past. I recall an ANAO or such report in 2010 about how Fed MPs were not following Gov policy of using the points when possible at that time.

If you are right then the system has been changed to align with other employees on federal payroll - Good to know thanks Danger.

Getting discounted fares makes a lot of sense IMHO better than pooling points since last minute awards might not always be possible.


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[11sjw]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

Keeping the status and not the points would be the big issue for me. My points earned is generally 80% other and 20% flying so it wouldn't be too detrimental.

 

[Danger]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

On the issue of federal politicians earning points, these articles may be of interest:

http://i.imgur.com/7nPM0.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9OygP.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/IzrP9.jpg