What is the best JASA for the lowest points cost / SC earned?

[connieguy]

The best JAXA I can find at present is Adl/Cns/Adl via Syd at 96,290 points all up for 280 SCs earned and 9,752 points for a WP.

I get ~344 points per SC. Anything better?

I did check but could not find where this topic (lowest points / SC earned) had been discussed before.

 

[markis10]

Simple answer and yes its been covered before!

 

[connieguy]

Simple answer and yes its been covered before!

Thanks. 204 points (inclusive of the 12,326 points earned) per SC earned or 244,800 points for 1,200 SCs. Should be interesting this year retaining Platinum on just JASAs. What fun QF offers us old farts.

BTW I really do appreciate all the work you put into the JASA system you use and that you decided to SHARE it!

Now just gotta position from Adl to Tvl / Drw and do my first JASA run...

 

[serfty]

IMHO, the best xASA's are those that get you somewhere you want to go or need to be in the manner you wish.

I have a wish to be in LAX next April - needing a one-way fare to get there; yesterday I purchased a JASA MEL-xSYD-xBNE-LAX for 128K points and $358.

I should earn 260 SC's and up to 24,400 QFF points.


[BTW]

It's JASA, not JAXA​

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[connieguy]

IMHO, the best xASA's are those that get you somewhere you want to go or need to be in the manner you wish.

Yup, fully agree. Too many -Y butt in the seat miles for me. Time to consider the old bones (I'm 64 but look early 50ish and feel 45ish). I do have business in Darwin, Perth and Cairns so the Tsv connection is ok if I can't get the JASA to work for Cns.

I just gotta say for someone with 3.5 m miles in my log (been flying since 1952), I have learned a heck of a lot from AFF. I really wish I knew about this forum a LONG time ago. I have wasted so many points and points earning opportunities. But thanks to AFF, that has all changed. I'm excited about my next 12 months of flying.

Just maybe an old dog can learn a few new tricks.

 

[Limewood]

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Just maybe an old dog can learn a few new tricks.

I did from the great guys here, recently did the TSV/BNE/DRW run (with add on CNS/TSV/CNS) on a double status run I learnt of here, jumped from basic SB to SG in one hit. Status points took 12 days to arrive.

 

[markis10]

As someone who at least once a month travels TSV and DRW, I have found the above very good value, although the early morning starts are a PITA.

 

[Limewood]

As someone who at least once a month travels TSV and DRW, I have found the above very good value, although the early morning starts are a PITA.

Spot on there, I arose at 4am flew out about of TSV 6am to BNE/DRW by the time I arrived back in TSV was 10pm bedtime, man I was stuffed.

 

[AdamR]

Now just gotta position from Adl to Tvl / Drw and do my first JASA run...

You are in luck. ADL-BNE-TSV is another one of the pretty good runs. If you link ADL-BNE-TSV-BNE-DRW-BNE-TSV-BNE-ADL, you should get something over 500 SC in one run over a few days.

Edit to remove brain fade on calculations.

 

[JetLagged]

Dear AFF gurus - :idea: how about some special runs ex SYD? :idea:

 

[Joshua]

Another one I still like is TSV-BNE-MEL-AKL. 200SC for 36000 points. About $100 in cash.

Depending on positioning, accommodation etc. that is better value again. The above fitted with where I needed to be anyway last year, sometimes things work out.

Dear AFF gurus - :idea: how about some special runs ex SYD? :idea:

You're not going to anything as good starting in SYD. It's like asking for a good kupp/yupp from LAX or DFW. Need to start somewhere where you can route through SYD. Of course a short flight to CBR or BNE will do just that. Can also use a JASA to TSV to start off.

Honestly though if you need that many SC and have that many points to burn, maybe the status isn't worth it and/or just use the points to fly J normally.

 

[connieguy]

You are in luck. ADL-BNE-TSV is another one of the pretty good runs. If you link ADL-BNE-TSV-BNE-DRW-BNE-TSV-BNE-ADL, you should get something over 500 SC in one run over a few days.

Edit to remove brain fade on calculations.

So 520 SCs and 20,826 points earned for 137,407 points spent or 116,581 points spent inclusive of the earned points. ~244 points / SC.

For each Adl/Mel/Bkk/Mel/Adl at A$2k that is 22,580 points and 260 SCs earned plus 5,000 points from Amex = 27,580 + 260 SCs. 4 of those earn 1,040 SCs and 110,320 points.

This shows me that I can use JASAs to leverage my SC by ~50% for no additional money. Or pay for 1,040 SCs and end up with 1,560 SC for the cost of the 1,020. I really like leveraging my spend, in regard to SCs earned by 150% using the JASA flights. I'll make PG (SWMBO will be happy), WP1 and AA EXP this year!!!! :shock:

 

[fredflyer]

I am a newly-minted AFF member and a lowly QFF bronze member.

This seems like an appropriate thread to pose a question that has bugged me for a while as I have browsed this site pre-registering.

The question is simple: Why is there such an importance placed on status credits by so many members? I understand that earning status credits can result in elevated membership levels and that the higher levels have benefits but are these benefits really worth spending the points, flying hours, associated costs (petrol, parking, etc) that are required. Not to mention the opportunity cost of the time spent acquiring the credits.

I must be missing something big-time because it seems to me that Markis10 could spend 4 exhaustingly-long days and a nett 228,000 points on contrived flights to achieve 1120 credits – still not enough to retain his WP status!

I'd appreciate any & all comments and I'm happy to be enlightened and to join the status credit chase.

And please – this is my first post so please be gentle.

(And not too many acronyms please – else I wont understand you)

 

[markis10]

Another one I still like is TSV-BNE-MEL-AKL. 200SC for 36000 points. About $100 in cash.

Depending on positioning, accommodation etc. that is better value again. The above fitted with where I needed to be anyway last year, sometimes things work out.

That JASA is now $180 in cash thanks to the increase in fuel fines etc. If we look at net points cost versus earned SCs:

TSV-BNE-MEL-AKL is 53052 points less 7986 points as a WP earned, so 200 SC = 45066 or 225 per SC
TSV-BNE-AKL is 34922 less 6163 points as a WP earned, so 140 SC = 28759 or 205 per SC, and its doable in a day as a return (if you are lucky to be in TSV!

I am a newly-minted AFF member and a lowly QFF bronze member.....The question is simple: Why is there such an importance placed on status credits by so many members? I understand that earning status credits can result in elevated membership levels and that the higher levels have benefits but are these benefits really worth spending the points, flying hours, associated costs (petrol, parking, etc) that are required. Not to mention the opportunity cost of the time spent acquiring the credits.

I must be missing something big-time because it seems to me that Markis10 could spend 4 exhaustingly-long days and a nett 228,000 points on contrived flights to achieve 1120 credits – still not enough to retain his WP status.

No one would be chasing status with no status to start of with by doing a status run to get to WP level first up that I know of, however if you do enough flying to get to Gold each year then it may be worth it, the points and time spent could be repaid by the extra points earning a WP gets on the longer legs not to mention access to the F lounge, and the ability to take more than one bag per person if needed.

Your question is a valid question in the context of asking, is it worth me going for SG or WP, and thats a question you will often see here with answers differing, based on ones personal experience, current status and future expected travel and if one has been offered double SCs!

 

[QF029]

I am a newly-minted AFF member and a lowly QFF bronze member.

This seems like an appropriate thread to pose a question that has bugged me for a while as I have browsed this site pre-registering.

The question is simple: Why is there such an importance placed on status credits by so many members? I understand that earning status credits can result in elevated membership levels and that the higher levels have benefits but are these benefits really worth spending the points, flying hours, associated costs (petrol, parking, etc) that are required. Not to mention the opportunity cost of the time spent acquiring the credits.

I must be missing something big-time because it seems to me that Markis10 could spend 4 exhaustingly-long days and a nett 228,000 points on contrived flights to achieve 1120 credits – still not enough to retain his WP status!

I'd appreciate any & all comments and I'm happy to be enlightened and to join the status credit chase.

And please – this is my first post so please be gentle.

(And not too many acronyms please – else I wont understand you)

I'm not sure you're going to fit in around here Fred! :shock:

 

[Andyzx]

Why is there such an importance placed on status credits by so many members?

It’s a valid question Fred. It all depends on your perspective, what you perceive as value. For me and (maybe for Jetlagged) I had to go to SYD-PER, so added a connection via MELB (+$10 and 2 hours) and bumped it to a JASA (36000 points). I get to fly in business on an INTL version of an A330 and hopefully will have a good trip. It will give me gold for the first time.

Value extra 15000 points and $110 = 120 SC's
Perspective I get to gold for the first time
Important, it will make my regular domestic travel easier, seat selection – esp BA, priority security, free QP.

So I guess that’s why I do it – or maybe its just why not do it:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

 

[connieguy]

The question is simple: Why is there such an importance placed on status credits by so many members?

SC earn, tier Status and WP is everything. It underlines everything:

Frequent Flyer - About the Program - Platinum Benefits

Some of the WP benefits I have enjoyed:

1) Priority check-in.

2) Best seating / Exit row seating.

3) Best JASA (J / (Business) Any Seat Awards) seats at the lowest points cost.

4) Arrivals and departure domestic J lounge access.

5) F Lounge international departure access.

6) Increased luggage allowance.

7) Priority baggage handling.

8) One ring Platinum help desk.

9) Guaranteed Economy seat on ANY flight.

10) F or min J priority check-in / security transit at every domestic and almost every international terminal.

12) 100% WP points earn bonus.

13) Increased guest access to domestic J lounges.

14) Partner QF Gold status with 2,400 SCs.

15) Loyalty bonuses of 8,000 points for every 500 SC earned.

16) Min 1,000 points per flight number.

17) One World, international, Emerald (highest tier) Status.

18) Occasional QF free upgrades to Y+ (Premium Economy) or J (Business) on both domestic and international long hauls.

Plus I'm sure some benefits I have missed. Qantas Platinum is the place to be if you fly a lot.

Earning 1,200 QF SCs is the goal while spending the less amount of money. JASA, for me, can leverage my real dollar spend by an additional 50%. So I spend on QF and OW (One World) flights enough to earn say 800 SC and then use the earned points from those flights to earn another 400 SC from JASA flights to retain QF Platinum and all the benefits that brings.

 

[connieguy]

So I guess that’s why I do it – or maybe its just why not do it:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

Answer as a WP is simple. Either:

1) Spend 100% of that required to retain WP with no JASAs.

2) Spend ~66% of that required to retain WP, then earn the next ~33% of that required to maintain WP via no cost JASA flights.

The choice is a no brainer.

 

[Joshua]

Thanks markis10, I wasn't aware of the change in fuel fines. Noted for future reference


As for fredflyer, it's a question you can consider on several levels.
I would answer it practically by the many business travellers stuck in Y who can burn a few points now to make the rest of their travels less miserable.

For myself I'm all leisure travel, so I'm not taking pointless flights but I will use the JASA fares get me places if it works out well. Why the need for status then? Well there's still a lot of regular ordinary-person Y travel between ADL, BNE, MEL & SYD for me, so it makes that a bit nicer. I virtually have a 100% success rate of front row for these flights meaning business class leg room and seldom the middle seat filled. Basically business class without the onboard catering.

But I totally understand and agree in part with the sentiment. I do think communally these forums can seem to become engorged on the reach for status in a mere customer loyalty program. While it makes sense for the truly frequent traveller, some may over-extend themselves to fit-in, this juxtaposed against yelps of pragmatism from some well travelled folk. Of course if it makes people happy, go for it. That's a fundamental of our capitalist society allowing us to individualise through our consumerist behaviour. We identify ourselves that way. I'm not going to deny I don't do it, I'm the travelling guy. But really I'm just enjoy seeing things differently.

I was once the new bronze member unaware of status. These types of forums helped as I started to travel and make the most of it. And also, welcome to AFF

 

[connieguy]

For myself I'm all leisure travel, so I'm not taking pointless flights but I will use the JASA fares get me places if it works out well.

WOW. WP as a leisure flyer. :shock: I'm jealous. For me I use the knowledge of JASA and other creative routing to gain the max SCs for each journey I make. I have never done a pure SC run, though I was going to do so to quickly gain DJ Gold until they cut my b*lls off.

So learn to use JASAs and other creative routing to earn SCs and points at almost no cost. In my first year of doing this I earned 3,250 SCs by just listening to and learning from the many examples on this forum. This Forum is worth many, many times the cost of Gold membership (A$50). Now that I understand how to use JASAs, well this QF year will be very interesting.

Hey Red Roo, when will the WP1 requirements and benefits be released? Why delay when DJ has, currently, nothing on the table to seduce your WPs and Golds.