What will happen to my AKL-LAX booking after 6 May 2012?

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With the cancellation of the AKL-LAX route from 6 May just announced (http://www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au/community/travel-news/qf-to-cut-jobs-routes-36752.html), what will happen with bookings?

I have a JASA booked AKL-LAX in late May. Any ideas what route they might move me to?

I'd be happy for it to become AKL-SYD-LAX, as then I get 260 SCs instead of 160! As long as it's not AKL-NAN-LAX on FJ's non-lie-flat J product, I'll probably be happy.

I think they will route you via SYD.
 
Interestingly, the reduced capacity to LAX from Australia (although indirectly) will no doubt have some sort of effect in relation to fares and availability.

I am very surprised that an A380 will continue on to NYC from LAX. anecdotally I've heard this flight is often well well below capacity. perhaps someone more knowledgeable than I can share more insight into this?
I would have thought the DFW service is a better option with AA onto NYC? and would have allowed the dropping of the NYC service?
 
If you are on a QF service, i'm 98% sure they will NOT put you on FJ metal. It will just be via MEL or SYD
 
With the cancellation of the AKL-LAX route from 6 May just announced (http://www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au/community/travel-news/qf-to-cut-jobs-routes-36752.html), what will happen with bookings?

I have a JASA booked AKL-LAX in late May. Any ideas what route they might move me to?

I'd be happy for it to become AKL-SYD-LAX, as then I get 260 SCs instead of 160! As long as it's not AKL-NAN-LAX on FJ's non-lie-flat J product, I'll probably be happy.

Replacement service. http://www.wired.com/images/article/full/2008/04/kon_tiki_500px.jpg
 
The QF bird flying into New York was a high yielding service but I believe these days it's more of a Branding & Marketing exercise for the North American market.
 
I would guess you would either go via BNE or SYD, just depending on which combination of flights has capacity on the day.

You could go via MEL but that leaves too early to make a same day connection from AKL. They would only put you up for the night in MEL, if flight via BNE or SYD were not possible.

Only if MEL, SYD or BNE were not possible would they consider other carriers.
 
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News.com.au reports:

It will also boost capacity on the Los Angeles-New York route from 6 May, with an A330 replacing its 747 jet.
So the A330 will just shuttle between LAX and NYC?
New.com :rolleyes:

A 330 has been operating QF107/QF108 between JFK and LAX for the last year or so.

They are replacing it with a 744.

The 330 is currently flying SYD-AKL-LAX-JFK and vv.
 
Confirmation you can reroute via an Australian Gateway:

Effective 06 May 2012, the following Qantas operated direct services between Auckland and Los Angeles will cease operations:

  • QF25 – Auckland to Los Angeles
  • QF26 – Los Angeles to Auckland

Customer bookings will progressively be updated to reflect the cessation of these services and be confirmed with an alternate routing. The following options are also available to affected Qantas customers holding a valid ticket issued on/before 16 February 2012 for travel on/after 06 May 2012.

For customers holding a Qantas (081) issued ticket :

Passengers may, without fee:
Re-route/Re-book travel
- Reroute travel between Auckland and Los Angeles via an Australian Gateway (Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane) on Qantas services; 1 stop-over permitted without fee in each direction at customer’s expense;
- Return to the origin port via the most direct routing using Qantas (including Qantas marketed and British Airways operated, and Qantas marketed and American Airlines operated) flights.
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The QF bird flying into New York was a high yielding service but I believe these days it's more of a Branding & Marketing exercise for the North American market.

It works as branding for me, I can't say I'm hanging out for another transamerican flight on AA.
We tried to change to the 747 but we are in I class and only 1 I seat on one leg available. I assume J to NYC = real J on the QF metal. I might call again a little closer. This is the LAX flight to JFK connecting from the MEL-LAX flight leaving 19th April. Maybe if I ask nicely someone will tell me if 2 I seats appear on the 747? Leaving NYC on 30/4
 
New.com :rolleyes:

The 330 is currently flying SYD-AKL-LAX-JFK and vv. [-](Was BNE-LAX-JFK-LAX-AKL and vv)[/-]

Passengers will go via SYD or BNE (or direct if you are going to MEL via AKL) I would assume.
 
JASA booked AKL- LAX with cheap paid Y SYD-AKL in mid May, all designed to connect with a cruise departing YVR,various AA flights etc. Rang the platinum desk who said unable to discuss options to reroute until Monday, scripted response was we always look after Plats.

Can I expect a no net detriment outcome -I mean same amount of SC at least, no additional costs, as if the change had never happened.The main reason I booked via AKL originally was because the ex SYD JASA was a ridiculous number of points and more than I had available.

Any experiences with these types of situations?
 
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Not that I am aware of, the transition to A330 was only effective from AKL with 141 being the feeder ex SYD, they cannot do BNE LAX as its too long.
 
It works as branding for me, I can't say I'm hanging out for another transamerican flight on AA.
We tried to change to the 747 but we are in I class and only 1 I seat on one leg available. I assume J to NYC = real J on the QF metal. I might call again a little closer. This is the LAX flight to JFK connecting from the MEL-LAX flight leaving 19th April. Maybe if I ask nicely someone will tell me if 2 I seats appear on the 747? Leaving NYC on 30/4

Expert flyer hasn't changed the aircraft on that date to a 747. QF 108 (332) is showing I4, QF 94 (388) is I9
When is the 747 due to start operating?
 
Holding out hoping QFF will refund our changed booking fees just over a week ago from LAX/AKL/BNE/CNS to LAX/BNE/CNS, waiting on email back from them.
 
Holding out hoping QFF will refund our changed booking fees just over a week ago from LAX/AKL/BNE/CNS to LAX/BNE/CNS, waiting on email back from them.

Good luck with that, a case of bad timing!
 
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