When is a Schooner not a Schooner and when is a Pot a Middie?

[JohnK]

I would not be surprised if the "faulty" scales were a scam by Tiger or the check-in person for more money.

Do Tiger check-in people get commission from "any" excess fees collected at the airport?

I'm talking about a proper schooner here which would be called a pint in South Australia.

What is the definition of a proper schooner?

In New South Wales we have a midi, a schooner and a pint. From memory a midi is 285mL a schooner is 420mL and a pint is 560mL.

In Queensland they have the same but a midi is called a pot.

In Victoria I can only recollect schooners and pints but unfortunately a schooner is the same as a midi.

It does not really matter what the other states call glasses of beer.

 

[docjames]

I would not be surprised if the "faulty" scales were a scam by Tiger or the check-in person for more money.

Do Tiger check-in people get commission from "any" excess fees collected at the airport?


What is the definition of a proper schooner?

In New South Wales we have a midi, a schooner and a pint. From memory a midi is 285mL a schooner is 420mL and a pint is 560mL.

In Queensland they have the same but a midi is called a pot.

In Victoria I can only recollect schooners and pints but unfortunately a schooner is the same as a midi.

It does not really matter what the other states call glasses of beer.

Pots are common in Melbourne. I've heard.

A pot is the same as a half-pint (285/570).

I've always considered a schooner as approx halfway between (either 420ml or 425ml being the exact measure of a "true" schooner).

 

[serfty]

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... What is the definition of a proper schooner?

In New South Wales we have a midi, a schooner and a pint. From memory a midi is 285mL a schooner is 420mL and a pint is 560mL.

In Queensland they have the same but a midi is called a pot.

In Victoria I can only recollect schooners and pints but unfortunately a schooner is the same as a midi.

It does not really matter what the other states call glasses of beer.

OT: A schooner should be 15 oz or 425 ml, Midi/Pot are half pints at 285 ml and a Pint is 560ml.

 

[oz_mark]

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OT: A schooner should be 15 oz or 425 ml, Midi/Pot are half pints at 285 ml and a Pint is 560ml.

Staying OT: Pint should be 570 ml. (It's actually ~568 ml)

 

[JohnK]

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OT: A schooner should be 15 oz or 425 ml, Midi/Pot are half pints at 285 ml and a Pint is 560ml.

And when I asked for a schooner in Victoria I got a midi.

All states should standardise to the terms used in New South Wales.

 

[medhead]

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I would not be surprised if the "faulty" scales were a scam by Tiger or the check-in person for more money.

Do Tiger check-in people get commission from "any" excess fees collected at the airport?


What is the definition of a proper schooner?

In New South Wales we have a midi, a schooner and a pint. From memory a midi is 285mL a schooner is 420mL and a pint is 560mL.

In Queensland they have the same but a midi is called a pot.

In Victoria I can only recollect schooners and pints but unfortunately a schooner is the same as a midi.

It does not really matter what the other states call glasses of beer.

Normally, I would call a schooner as 425 ml.

I believe Victoria has a pot at 285 ml and I expected a schooner to be 425ml.

But in South Australia, if you ask for a schooner you get a midi/pot sized beer at 285 ml and a South Australian pint is 425 ml. Unless you ask for an imperial pint which is of course, 560 ml, or 570 ml, or 568 ml

It is a mixed feeling ordering a schooner in South Australia for the first time, at first there is elation that a beer is so cheap, then they hand you a midi, which is a nasty shock.

 

[ric_melb]

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Pot is the standard size beer in Victoria being 285ml.
Schooners are not so common, being 425ml.
Years back we also used to order a glass of beer being 200ml, but seldom ordered these days.

 

[markis10]

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I stick to Jugs, no confusion.

 

[NM]

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I stick to Jugs, no confusion.

Would they be metric jugs or imperial jugs?

 

[Dave Noble]

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Unless you ask for an imperial pint which is of course, 560 ml, or 570 ml, or 568 ml

Pretty sure that an Imperial Pint is a fixed value

 

[markis10]

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Pretty sure that an Imperial Pint is a fixed value

568.26125 ml to be precise , and I can tell when i have been ripped off after having two or three LOL

The BBC were kind enough to publish a guide for the visitors a few years back on what as what in each state:

I will drink to that !

 

[medhead]

Pretty sure that an Imperial Pint is a fixed value

I was referring to there being those 3 values already being quoted in the thread by others

I still trying to remember that other south australian special the butcher's, which is something like 3 oz.

 

[Mal]

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I stick to Jugs, no confusion.

A pub I was in recently (Gold Coast) had jugs larger than the usual size... so it's not a guaranteed measure either!

 

[markis10]

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A pub I was in recently (Gold Coast) had jugs larger than the usual size... so it's not a guaranteed measure either!

That would be right, just when I thought I knew what I was ordering. Interestingly the legal position is that there are no prescribed sizes for beverage measures for the sale of beer, ale and stout. Terms such as ‘seven’, ‘middy’, ‘pot’ or ‘schooner’ do not legally specify a particular size!

 

[Sethor]

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568.26125 ml to be precise , and I can tell when i have been ripped off after having two or three LOL

The BBC were kind enough to publish a guide for the visitors a few years back on what as what in each state:

I will drink to that !

In WA we call a Pint a Pint not a Pot as per chart above.

This chart seems to be more accurate from aussiebeerbaron: beerfaq

 

[NM]

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Pretty sure that an Imperial Pint is a fixed value

Tell that to the Americans!

 

[Fantic125]

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=markis10;344967]568.26125 ml to be precise , and I can tell when i have been ripped off after having two or three LOL

...and dont forget the impact of the size of the head! Each person differs on the amount of head they like with their beer.

 

[MAX_1]

All this talk reminds of what happened to my nephew when he was working in a country pub during his Uni holidays.

An old drover turned up and asked for a Pot ( xx_X of course in Qld ). After the head settled down, the old drover said to him " Hey son, u reckon you could pour some lemonade in this?"
Nephew replied "Sure" to which the old drover said
"Then fill the f...n glass right to the top with beer"

 

[QF029]

Schooners are not common in Victoria. Most of the pubs that have them are trendier type places and it's usually just a way to charge more. Most vics have an idea of the cost of a pot or pint but not schooner.

Asking for midi brands you as a tourist.

 

[Mal]

I wish all alcohol glasses had their volume written on them. It helps with counting drinks, and knowing what you are getting for your money.

BTW, the same pub I talked about earlier in this thread has a Pint glass that is 50ml more than most others. I'm not sure if it's only used for a certain promotion (for a beer brand) or generally used - it didn't have a ML measure on the side.

I tried to check their website to find out more details, but it's not listed there.

Oh, and regarding pints - My recollection is that they weren't that popular in Brisbane (except in English/Irish themed pubs). Over the last year they have become more popular and are available in a lot more places. Call it the "McDonalds" upsize effect