Who is going to the USA, who has changed their travel and what will you do differently?

[kangarooflyer88]

Maybe I’m missing something but if Delta is forced to abandon orders from foreign aeroplane manufacturers (Airbus etc) and instead place more tariff-free orders from the local manufacturer (Boeing), wouldn’t the current Administration in the USA see that as a win? Doesn’t that sum up the rationale for tariffs in the first place?

Airbus aircraft are made in the United States and so would not be subject to tariffs. And for those about to hammer on about assembly in Toulouse, yeah that's for some aircraft but not all. The Bombardier C Series (now the Airbus A220) is manufactured Mobile, Alabama right on the Gulf of Mexico.

I'm not sure about other aircraft, but I believe a number of Delta orders are for the C-Series (or should I call it A220?).

 

[jb747]

That’s how I read it, too. And maybe there’s some encouragement from recent developments such as many forms of tech being exempted (which will hugely benefit Apple, among others).

Remember, Trump V1 was going to impose tariffs on A220s that were actually made at the Airbus plant in the USA. I wouldn't expect to see any logic coming from that quarter.

 

[p--and--t]

 

[justinbrett]

Remember, Trump V1 was going to impose tariffs on A220s that were actually made at the Airbus plant in the USA. I wouldn't expect to see any logic coming from that quarter.

Assembled, not made. Huge difference.

 

[p--and--t]

Endeavour Air (subsidiary of Delta)

 

[jb747]

Assembled, not made. Huge difference.

In many ways the same applies to Boeing.

https://www.boeing.com/content/dam/boeing/boeingdotcom/company/key_orgs/boeing-international/pdf/chinabackgrounder_english.pdf

 

[justinbrett]

In many ways the same applies to Boeing.

https://www.boeing.com/content/dam/boeing/boeingdotcom/company/key_orgs/boeing-international/pdf/chinabackgrounder_english.pdf

Sure but the scale isn't even comparable.

Boeing employs 147,000 people in the US; Airbus employs 4,700. The big/main stuff is produced in the US. I think in recent times Boeing wishes it wasn't so American.

 

[Disco]

Thinking of trip to Canada/Alaska in 2026. Initially thought of flying Syd/ HNL/Vancouver as we have friends in HNL. Flying back SEA to SIN. Still want to go but waiting to see what eventuates. Hoping that Alaska is far enough removed to ignore the hubris currently being generated.

 

[Blackadder]

People may say the current situation with declining bookings are based on fear or hyperbole etc, however while the root cause for the uncertainty remains, that will continue.

Australian academics refuse to attend US conferences for fear of being detained

‘When academics fear travelling or partnering with US institutions, the impacts ripple through the entire global knowledge ecosystem,’ one says

www.theguardian.com

 

[cove]

All we have done is buy a discounted business A380 fare and apply for a points upgrade on Qantas for next month. Not sure if that will work but worth a try with so many things changing.

 

[Disco]

People may say the current situation with declining bookings are based on fear or hyperbole etc, however while the root cause for the uncertainty remains, that will continue.

Australian academics refuse to attend US conferences for fear of being detained

‘When academics fear travelling or partnering with US institutions, the impacts ripple through the entire global knowledge ecosystem,’ one says

www.theguardian.com

We know a well educated American currently on a visit who is looking for alternatives to returning to the US.

 

[Disco]

All we have done is buy a discounted business A380 fare and apply for a points upgrade on Qantas for next month. Not sure if that will work but worth a try with so many things changing.

Our chances of getting upgrades on Qantas are zip. Not sure I have "let go", deep breath, enough to want to fly Q - always look at alternatives first.

 

[SydneySwan]

People may say the current situation with declining bookings are based on fear or hyperbole etc, however while the root cause for the uncertainty remains, that will continue.

Australian academics refuse to attend US conferences for fear of being detained

‘When academics fear travelling or partnering with US institutions, the impacts ripple through the entire global knowledge ecosystem,’ one says

www.theguardian.com

Not just academics. I know some medics who have decided not to attend a conference because it is in the US later this month and they have concerns regarding US border force.

 

[Airbumps]

Data Point: Entered the US a few days ago on an ESTA. Nil change from the last dozen times I've been through...other than the line at TBIT for immigration was less than 5 minutes.

 

[Murmal]

. Sorry, but someone wake me when this actually starts.

I was asked to provide ID when flying BOS - LGA 18 months ago. I had gone Amtrak from NYC to Boston for a day trip and left my AU passport secured in the NY hotel, not needing it for Amtrak. Security at the airport asked for photo ID and arced up when I handed my AU driver's licence. Demanded to see a passport and when I explained where it was , the agent then asked for further proof/ID. I handed over a variety of cards from my wallet, he studied them with annoyance, then chose one to be escalated, with my DL, to his superior for verification. I expected an AMEX or other professional affiliation card, even my QFF card but no, his wisdom chose the social club card to my local RSL.
I made the flight.
Lesson learnt. Always have your passport, even for domestic flights in the US.

 

[DC3]

Lesson learnt. Always have your passport, even for domestic flights in the US.

Rookie oversight.

 

[DC3]

The Bombardier C Series (now the Airbus A220) is manufactured Mobile, Alabama right on the Gulf of Mexico.

aka Gulf of America?

 

[justinbrett]

I was asked to provide ID when flying BOS - LGA 18 months ago. I had gone Amtrak from NYC to Boston for a day trip and left my AU passport secured in the NY hotel, not needing it for Amtrak. Security at the airport asked for photo ID and arced up when I handed my AU driver's licence. Demanded to see a passport and when I explained where it was , the agent then asked for further proof/ID. I handed over a variety of cards from my wallet, he studied them with annoyance, then chose one to be escalated, with my DL, to his superior for verification. I expected an AMEX or other professional affiliation card, even my QFF card but no, his wisdom chose the social club card to my local RSL.
I made the flight.
Lesson learnt. Always have your passport, even for domestic flights in the US.

I am really surprised they let you fly. Foreigners have needed a passport or US/Canadian drivers licence for as long as I can remember.

 

[Human]

I am really surprised they let you fly. Foreigners have needed a passport or US/Canadian drivers licence for as long as I can remember.

When I was in the USA in January I flew domestically three times. The first two times I just showed my passport. On the third occasion I kept my passport in my bag and decided to find out how they’d react to my showing my Australian drivers licence. The TSA officer let me through with a smile. This was at DCA.

 

[DC3]

I am really surprised they let you fly. Foreigners have needed a passport or US/Canadian drivers licence for as long as I can remember.

That’s my experience as well. I would never fly within the US without my passport, regardless of the experience of others. It’s just not worth the potential hassle.