Who is going to the USA, who has changed their travel and what will you do differently?

[DC3]

Another report of travelers detained and deported , this time because of no booked accommodation.

The two were accused of potential illegal work intentions it seems. Also, being denied entry has been around for many years.

Who knows what their story was (or wasn’t?).

 

[AuSammy]

Another report of travelers detained and deported , this time because of no booked accommodation.

Why These Hawaii Travelers Were Jailed And Deported

Two young travelers expected their Hawaii trip to be the highlight of a long awaited world adventure. Instead, their arrival in Honolulu ended in handcuffs, jail, and deportation.

beatofhawaii.com

It's not the fact they were denied entry due to a lack of acceptable paperwork; it's the fact they were stripped, put in prison clothing, jailed, with criminals of various serious crimes, and fed expired food that is totally over the top and unacceptable.

A country crossed off my list until a change of regime; not returning again after 5 previous visits.

 

[dajop]

Another report of travelers detained and deported , this time because of no booked accommodation.

Why These Hawaii Travelers Were Jailed And Deported

Two young travelers expected their Hawaii trip to be the highlight of a long awaited world adventure. Instead, their arrival in Honolulu ended in handcuffs, jail, and deportation.

beatofhawaii.com

Wow I’m shocked. Australia would never ever do this

Come to think of it , all of this drama at immigration would make for a great reality TV show. Something you couldn’t do for Australian immigration because they let everyone arriving at our shores in no questions asked.

 

[Forg]

The two were accused of potential illegal work intentions it seems. Also, being denied entry has been around for many years.

Who knows what their story was (or wasn’t?).

If you were someone considering paying money for tickets going there, safest assumption you make would be that the same could easily happen to you, and go elsewhere instead. When the heads of the organisations in charge of That Stuff are openly saying they don’t care about the illegality of sending random people to South American gulags, you cannot assume your own safety, should one of the failed cops staffing Immigration have a bad day & decide they don’t like you for a random reason.

 

[Human]

If you were someone considering paying money for tickets going there, safest assumption you make would be that the same could easily happen to you, and go elsewhere instead. When the heads of the organisations in charge of That Stuff are openly saying they don’t care about the illegality of sending random people to South American gulags, you cannot assume your own safety, should one of the failed cops staffing Immigration have a bad day & decide they don’t like you for a random reason.

We're all old enough and experienced enough to know how this is going to play out. It's a pendulum. It always has been.

More and more people will have the same attitude as @Forg and change their travel plans. The tourism, aviation and hospitality industries in the USA will be hit really hard. People will lose their jobs.

In response, the Trump administration will be lobbied to ease back. Because the USA is more-or-less a democracy, and those in charge need votes, that easing will happen and things will return to "normal" until the next immigration scandal or (God forbid) act of terror which causes the government to tighten things again.

Over the past week or so we've seen two major -- really major -- Administration backdowns over tariffs. Once Americans start to suffer, there will be a backdown.

Democracy in action.

 

[Forg]

We're all old enough and experienced enough to know how this is going to play out. It's a pendulum. It always has been.

More and more people will have the same attitude as @Forg and change their travel plans. The tourism, aviation and hospitality industries in the USA will be hit really hard. People will lose their jobs.

In response, the Trump administration will be lobbied to ease back. Because the USA is more-or-less a democracy, and those in charge need votes, that easing will happen and things will return to "normal" until the next immigration scandal or (God forbid) act of terror which causes the government to tighten things again.

Over the past week or so we've seen two major -- really major -- Administration backdowns over tariffs. Once Americans start to suffer, there will be a backdown.

Democracy in action.

Whether or not they succeed with their goal of getting rid of that annoying need to garner votes (42% of the way towards dictatorship as of today: Project 2025 Tracker), you do have to wait & see whether that happens before knowing whether it’s the same big risk buying tickets. Wait ‘til that pendulum starts coming back the other way, before putting money down.

 

[Blackadder]

The two were accused of potential illegal work intentions it seems. Also, being denied entry has been around for many years.

Who knows what their story was (or wasn’t?).

So due to no proof they were going to work, they send them off to a immigration deportation centre.
At least here in Australia, they actually require proof before being denied entry.

 

[Human]

At least here in Australia, they actually require proof before being denied entry.

So Immigration officers in Australia are not permitted to deny entry to people unless the Immigration officers have proof that while in Australia the visitors will be doing something illegal?

In other words (and I'm genuinely asking) in Australia, the onus of proof is on Immigration to establish illegal intent?