Will I earn Qantas SC's on AA business

[mckinj02]

Does any one know if I will earn Qantas SC's on a Business class fare code C on my flight from Lima to Miami. I know I don't earn any points but was wondering if I still got SC's?

 

[simongr]

Frequent Flyer - About the Program - Status Credits

Frequent Flyer - About the Program - Terms & Conditions

https://www.google.com/search?q=qan...flight&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla

 

[samh004]

Does any one know if I will earn Qantas SC's on a Business class fare code C on my flight from Lima to Miami. I know I don't earn any points but was wondering if I still got SC's?

Generally if you're not earning points, neither are you earning SC, but to pick through the links above for you, the T&C don't list fare code C in the American Airlines section, so the answer would be no.

 

[simongr]

How have you booked a C class flight? I just checked on expert flyer and for a random date next week none of the AA flights have any C seats - only J, D, I or R (I havent seen R listed before) - same pattern for another random future date.

 

[NM]

Note that AA also use C class for business class upgrades from economy. You are only entitled to QFF points and status credits for the original fare type purchased and not for any upgrade that may be applied. So if you purchased a C class fare, you will get business class points and SCs. but if you purchased an economy/coach fare and then upgraded (using miles or eVIP etc) then you are only entitled to the points/SCs that would apply to the original economy/coach fare, which for some fares may mean no points or SCs apply. However, AA has been known to credit upgrades with full business class points/SCs on some occasions.

 

[serfty]

How have you booked a C class flight? I just checked on expert flyer and for a random date next week none of the AA flights have any C seats - only J, D, I or R (I havent seen R listed before) - same pattern for another random future date.

C is for some award business class (along with U) but normally represents business class upgrade from economy.

If booked as an award then no point or SC earn for the QFF program. If as an upgrade the credit would ordinarily be as for the original economy booking class.

E/F shows it on the awards and upgrades function.

Look here for a quick guide: Inventory Classes and Mileage Eligibility (AA)

 

[Kangol]

Note that AA also use C class for business class upgrades from economy. You are only entitled to QFF points and status credits for the original fare type purchased and not for any upgrade that may be applied. So if you purchased a C class fare, you will get business class points and SCs. but if you purchased an economy/coach fare and then upgraded (using miles or eVIP etc) then you are only entitled to the points/SCs that would apply to the original economy/coach fare, which for some fares may mean no points or SCs apply. However, AA has been known to credit upgrades with full business class points/SCs on some occasions.

There is an exception to the rule, if you purchase a discount Y fare and upgrade to J or F, you earn at full Y rates.

Inventory Classes and Mileage Eligibility (AA) - FlyerGuide Wiki

7 - Upgrade from Deep Discount Coach to First (on two-class aircraft) or Business (on tri-class aircraft) earns Coach Class miles)
9 - Upgrade from Discount Coach to First (on two-class aircraft) or Business (on tri-class aircraft); earns Coach Class miles

That happened to me on a dom AA 2 class flight (the system sometimes groups AA and non-AA OWEs together, thereby making the complimentary dom upgrades possible for non-AA OWEs)

 

[serfty]

There is an exception to the rule, if you purchase a discount Y fare and upgrade to J or F, you earn at full Y rates.

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That happened to me on a dom AA 2 class flight (the system sometimes groups AA and non-AA OWEs together, thereby making the complimentary dom upgrades possible for non-AA OWEs)

Of course, that should only happen if booked in the Y fare bucket originally, but occasionally does for other economy buckets.

It's up to you if you want to advise QFF of the mistake.:idea:

 

[NM]

There is an exception to the rule, if you purchase a discount Y fare and upgrade to J or F, you earn at full Y rates.

That only applies to AAdvantage members earning AAdvantage miles on such flights. For QFF earning, the rules are covered by the QFF program terms and conditions and that states that in the case of upgrades points and status credits are earned at the rate associated with the fare type originally purchased.

However, occasionally the system does credit differently. Such crediting should be treated as a "bank error in your favour" situation and is not reflective of any defined entitlement for QFF members.

 

[simongr]

So to go back to the OP - what was the original booking class? That might earn at economy rates.

 

[mckinj02]

Original booking class was Q, then used miles + co-pay to upgrade. It's funny because upgraded from Lima to Miami into International business class C, which I now know does not accrue miles or SC's, but the Miami to LAX section upgraded to Domestic First class A, which does accrue!

 

[Kangol]

That only applies to AAdvantage members earning AAdvantage miles on such flights. For QFF earning, the rules are covered by the QFF program terms and conditions and that states that in the case of upgrades points and status credits are earned at the rate associated with the fare type originally purchased.

However, occasionally the system does credit differently. Such crediting should be treated as a "bank error in your favour" situation and is not reflective of any defined entitlement for QFF members.

Oh, I read from several sources that such a rule also applied when crediting to non-AA programs, even to a point where such observations were in support of overriding the terms of the crediting program. Someone would be wrong somewhere along the line.

I remember seeing the BP showing booking class X and almost was contemplating if sitting in F for a short flight was worth not earning SCs/points.

 

[serfty]

... but the Miami to LAX section upgraded to Domestic First class A, which does accrue!

See the table above.

With American Airlines, A class is a first class fare bucket used for both Revenue (discount) and upgrades.

If upgrading from Q class on an AA flight number then no QFF earnings should ordinarily occur as credit should be for Q class (which is not an earning fare bucket with QFF when the flight number is AA's).

However, sometimes it may mispost - in these cases it is generally up to the beneficiary if they want to advise QFF of such.

 

[mckinj02]

I might just accrue mile to my AA account!

 

[serfty]

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I remember seeing the BP showing booking class X and almost was contemplating if sitting in F for a short flight was worth not earning SCs/points.

I've flown with my wife SFO-xORD-FCO and upgraded using gifted SWU/eViP's.

The SFO-ORD was in A class and the ORD-FCO was C class (a 763 with Business and Economy, no first for the latter). Original booking class was L (both on the same PNR/booking).

For SFO-ORD SWMBO's credited as "First", mine "(Full) Economy" and for both of us ORD-FCO were correctly credited "Discount Economy"! Go Figure!