Work paying for F and J flights

[tscharke]

No that was the cheap cough partners who wouldnt fly you J to the UK even though they were making a fortune of you...

..you know too much!!!

 

[Reggie]

I have a technical/sales role in a foreign owned company that produces and sells products mainly to the mining and civil industries. So I get to travel to wonderful places like PBO, TPR, ZNE, KGI, OLP, ISA etc. However on the upside I have also been to AKL, CDG, JFK, DFW, SFO, YVR, BNA and GCC.

Company policy is that all international travel is in J, and as a trip to the US from Perth (on QF) usually works out cheaper on a DONE4, I get to stop and spend some time at other places on the way around.

On domestic company policy is why, however I have it written into my employment contract that interstate travel is in J as PER to anywhere outside WA is a loooooooong flight.

 

[tscharke]

wow! i have no idea on the majority of those airport codes....am looking up now!!!

sounds cool tho

 

[Reggie]

wow! i have no idea on the majority of those airport codes....am looking up now!!!
sounds cool tho

Sorry, I was being lazy

PBO = Paraburdoo, TPR = Tom Price and ZNE = Newman (North West of WA), KGI = Kalgoorlie, OLP = Olympic Dam / Roxby Downs, ISA = Mount Isa. However on the upside I have also been to AKL = Auckland, CDG = Paris, JFK = New York, DFW = Dallas Fortworth, SFO = San Fransisco, YVR = Vancouver, BNA = Nashville and GCC = Gillette Wyoming (Brokeback Mountain country, but dont mention that there, they didn't even show the movie there).

 

[JohnK]

Sometimes we go by the clients' policies though, in which case even the Y travellers (ie: me) get to experience J.

I can only laugh, or is that cry, when reading this type of statement. I did some overseas travel for work a few years back but I no longer work for this company.

Company policy: Y for any flight under 5 hours, J for any flight over 5 hours.
Clients policy: Y for any flight under 5 hours, J for any flight over 5 hours.

Client was not prepared to pay exhorbitant consultancy fees and J travel for the consultants so I got to experience 7 overseas trips in WHY including 3 trips with a client who travelled in J & F to BKK and we both worked and partied around the clock for 7 days.

My company was too stingy to send me in J but also expected me travel in my own time. Yeah right....

 

[Shano]

All of my work funded travel is in Y. The owners of the company (US based) will only fly (pay for) Y so there is no hope for the rest of us. And yes, one of them is an accountant...

Earned 1,900 SC last membership year this way, although I did have LHR-BCN-LHR in J as there was no Y availability.

I also have a technical / sales role which can involve a flight to the
US and then need to be ready for a full days work on arrival. So this policy stinks a bit.....

My biggest luxury is trying to get away with booking Y class international fares to try and maximise SC earning (and minimise points required for upgrades) - which I have just done for my current trip to China.

 

[Keith009]

Internal Audit seems to be a popular one (I've heard of positions at MacqBank having 75%+ travel, both domestic and int'l).

Working for one of the Big 4 can also have its travel advantages, even as a new grad...though usually not as a graduate accountant.

Our work policy depends entirely on your position Depending on where you sit, you could be flying everywhere in Y, or everywhere in J/F (yes, the policy includes F travel for some ).

Sometimes we go by the clients' policies though, in which case even the Y travellers (ie: me) get to experience J.

Cheers.

Am an Arts/Law student - so I need something more 'arty farty.'

Thinking about management consulting - I used to live on campus at Trinity College, Melbourne Uni and Boston Consulting comes in annually to make a pitch for its final yr scholarships since many of the college alumni work for them. Their presentations are pretty attractive I must say.

Having said that - one of the dudes that came in to speak was involved in setting up Deathstar...:shock:

 

[vt01]

Most, if not all my travel is paid for bymy employer. Our travel policy is anything under 8 hours is Y and anything over is J. So part of Asia is Y and the other part J.
However, a manager can use discretion and ask you to travel in Y. So our management always uses their 'discretion' when they are paying so we go Y. When another country pays, we just travel as per policy which is J to most destination.
The work I do in my team is slightly different than the work my colleaugues do so most of my travel has been J because someone else pays. Where as many of them only travel to attend a course (mainly in the US) and therefore travel Y.
It's a pity I didn't know about AFF back in 1999-2000. I had 3 trips to the US in J. And then at least one per year until 2004. I could have booked these as DONE4's and probably been QF LG by now... oh well.. live and learn..

 

[serfty]

In my role, I can travel on Industry fares if I desire.

I prefer the FF points, SC's and security of confirmed bookings; so I try to travel on paid point/SC earning fares. I must keep the costs down to do this so most travel I do is on discount WHY fares; even overseas. I do use upgrades a lot on the longer trips (Since the May '05 changes I am 100% on those Upgrades I have requested.)

However, I am fortunate in that I can get meaningful sleep in WHY on a packed flights if necessary.

 

[Optics]

I work for a large multi-national, and company policy is J for international and Y for domestic (which I can live with). I travel once a month or so domestically, mainly Mel/Bri/Syd, and international 2 or 3 times a year to Europe or Canada. Which keeps me comfortably WP, and sometimes gets me Partner SG.

 

[shillard]

Am an Arts/Law student - so I need something more 'arty farty.'

Thinking about management consulting - I used to live on campus at Trinity College, Melbourne Uni and Boston Consulting comes in annually to make a pitch for its final yr scholarships since many of the college alumni work for them. Their presentations are pretty attractive I must say.

Having said that - one of the dudes that came in to speak was involved in setting up Deathstar...:shock:

I graduated in Arts - as arty as it gets (Dbl major in psych and ed). I fly J, drive a nice German car and married a Ballet dancer. Cop that, beancounters.


Learn to sell!

 

[littl_flier]

My travel policy is very similar (maybe even the same as Febs although we are in different departments and therefore I don't get the perks of J class travel) which means travelling Y domestically and all international flights at below manager levels, whilst it is J for managers and above on Long Haul Flights further than Singapore and Indonesia and economy for the rest. I must say though, many of the managers seem to fly Y when they travel to London etc. Must be that "discretion" thing. :evil:

 

[Optics]

My travel policy is very similar (maybe even the same as Febs although we are in different departments and therefore I don't get the perks of J class travel) which means travelling Y domestically and all international flights at below manager levels, whilst it is J for managers and above on Long Haul Flights further than Singapore and Indonesia and economy for the rest. I must say though, many of the managers seem to fly Y when they travel to London etc. Must be that "discretion" thing. :evil:

One thing I like about our company policy is that it does not discriminate based on seniority. The policy is the same for all (well at least up to VP level anyway), if you are flying internationally, you go J. Let's face it, no matter what level you are, the trip is the same length and you will still be expected to work once you land.

 

[simongr]

One thing I like about our company policy is that it does not discriminate based on seniority. The policy is the same for all (well at least up to VP level anyway), if you are flying internationally, you go J. Let's face it, no matter what level you are, the trip is the same length and you will still be expected to work once you land.

I completely agree with this. Sure for Board/CxO level then F is fine - for everyone else it should be the same - our expectations of people after travelling is the same irrespective of level in the business.

 

[vt01]

One thing I like about our company policy is that it does not discriminate based on seniority. The policy is the same for all (well at least up to VP level anyway), if you are flying internationally, you go J. Let's face it, no matter what level you are, the trip is the same length and you will still be expected to work once you land.

I wish! Managers always get to travel J. It's only their staff that have to travel Y.
And then there is the one person who gets to travel J everywhere because he has a medical certificate for an 'old' knee injury. One of his colleauges had a valid medical certificate and was told it's Y or don't go! Oh , and BTW, the medical certificate was issued by his brother....

 

[Optics]

I wish! Managers always get to travel J. It's only their staff that have to travel Y.
And then there is the one person who gets to travel J everywhere because he has a medical certificate for an 'old' knee injury. One of his colleauges had a valid medical certificate and was told it's Y or don't go! Oh , and BTW, the medical certificate was issued by his brother....

That sucks. I trust that if 2 people are travelling together, one in Y and 1 in J, that when they arrive the J traveller is expected dig in straight away, while the Y traveller gets to spend 12 hours recuperating first (as if ).

 

[vt01]

That sucks. I trust that if 2 people are travelling together, one in Y and 1 in J, that when they arrive the J traveller is expected dig in straight away, while the Y traveller gets to spend 12 hours recuperating first (as if ).

hahahaha....lol...in your dreams.. When travelling anywhere in Asia, it's straight to work the next day. Although for trips to the US we get a day whether we travel J or Y. The same on return.. We tend to take 3 days in lieu in total for any travel to the US. This is also management discretion but most our management doesn't mind the day in lieu.
When another country pays, I charge them a travel day there and back... I'm not giving up my weekends for travel when they are paying. well most of the time.. I did for my next trip to HKG otherwise I may not have got the trip...

 

[tscharke]

our company used to justify our Y policy by allowing us a day or two R&R either side of an OS trip to recover........however I am happy to say that I prefer our new J policy as I can live with hitting the ground running!

 

[garyjohn951]

I have found this thread most interesting. Correct me if I am wrong but everyone so far works for a large aussie ot multi-national comapny. To small business person like me, a "money to burn" company.
Well in small business where the dollar spent is coming out of the pocket of the person earning the dollar there are no hard and fast rules. It would be nice to set a policy of J over 5 hours. Bad luck if the trip doesn't pay its way, cause unlike multi-nationals it can't be allocated against the total budget. Bottom line the moneys gone. Thus for work I travel Y and use my points for upgrades where I can get them, points that I have paid for. The only time I pay for J is when I travel with my wife on holidays and that is out of my pocket from my after tax salary.

 

[tscharke]

your wife is very lucky, garyjohn951!

unless I can get J awards flights its up the back for us on holidays