Worse than feet on bulkheads

[Ade]

Earlier this week on VA. The area where the shoes are, we’re actually clean. They were soiled after this. You’ll be able to see this.

 

[gaz0303]

I’m currently in the EK lounge in MEL, being subjected to overhearing a businessman’s expletive laden phone call. He’s not a happy man. I’m out of sync with societies new standards, or are derivatives of f$&@ now part of normal conversation in a public setting like this?

 

[Quickstatus]

EK lounge

=

public setting

Correct
Airpods are great in situations like this. (Unfortunately)
I'm unsure why people have the expectation that behaviour in a airline lounge or for that matter an aircraft is going to be any different to any other public place?

 

[clifford]

I’m currently in the EK lounge in MEL, being subjected to overhearing a businessman’s expletive laden phone call. He’s not a happy man. I’m out of sync with societies new standards, or are derivatives of f$&@ now part of normal conversation in a public setting like this?

You could always just ignore it and move on.

I think there are bigger things to worry about (if indeed one worries at all).

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Earlier this week on VA. The area where the shoes are, we’re actually clean. They were soiled after this. You’ll be able to see this.

Having flown many VA flights now, I’m not sure how you *can’t* touch the bulkhead if you are tall and cross your legs! The wall is too close.

 

[Quickstatus]

if you are tall and cross your legs!

Why?. manspreading works

 

[Saab34]

Not so much for crew for not asking them to stop as surely that would tear the pockets and damage the seats? Hmmm

That happened to me on a easyjet flight. The pocket fell off for some reason, we had to wait 30 mins until engineering came and reattached it. Apparently we couldn’t leave until it was re attached. I guess all seats need to have a safety card accessible, might be in the UK regs.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Why?. manspreading works

Lol. Yup. But only so many combinations available. When you cross your legs your feet are gonna touch the bulkhead!

Anyway, the airlines can put the seats farther back if they’re too concerned! (Personally I don’t have an issue with feet on bulkheads. As long as feet aren’t touching anything in the literature pocket.)

 

[Ade]

Having flown many VA flights now, I’m not sure how you *can’t* touch the bulkhead if you are tall and cross your legs! The wall is too close.

Understand your point. I’m not a tall person, so I can stretch fully and cross my legs at ankles and I still won’t be touching the bulk head.

But the person can simply keep their feet on the ground? No need to keep their feet hoisted on the bulkhead board ?

There’s varying degrees here - say clean shoes (there’s no such thing as clean shoes btw) or unsoiled shoes, may be ok? Or one can always put one leg on the other? I don’t know what it’s called though.

I mean no part of the airplane is clean, the least we can do is not make it even dirtier ?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Understand your point. I’m not a tall person, so I can stretch fully and cross my legs at ankles and I still won’t be touching the bulk head.

But the person can simply keep their feet on the ground? No need to keep their feet hoisted on the bulkhead board ?

There’s varying degrees here - say clean shoes (there’s no such thing as clean shoes btw) or unsoiled shoes, may be ok? Or one can always put one leg on the other? I don’t know what it’s called though.

I mean no part of the airplane is clean, the least we can do is not make it even dirtier ?

There’s eating surfaces… and there’s the cabin bulkhead. Aside from keeping the literature pocket clear from soiled shoes, I’m not sure of the reason why the bulkhead wall is so special?

Keeping feet flat on the floor is an option, but just like sitting at home, most people shuffle around to get comfortable or simply change position.

And keeping in mind too that ‘shoes’ on the bulkhead are likely far better than exposed grotty feet!

 

[TheRealTMA]

There’s eating surfaces… and there’s the cabin bulkhead. Aside from keeping the literature pocket clear from soiled shoes, I’m not sure of the reason why the bulkhead wall is so special?

Keeping feet flat on the floor is an option, but just like sitting at home, most people shuffle around to get comfortable or simply change position.

And keeping in mind too that ‘shoes’ on the bulkhead are likely far better than exposed grotty feet!

Surely the bulkhead wall is much cleaner than the floor?

 

[Forg]

Surely the bulkhead wall is much cleaner than the floor?

Not judging from this thread!

TBH, I thought the problem was with unshod feet. People taking their stinky shoes off, which sit there generating odours, and then waving their stinky feet in the air.
If the problem in this thread is just people putting shoes on walls, well that’s a bit cough if you’re the owner of the wall but ain’t as bad as someone taking their shoes off …

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Surely the bulkhead wall is much cleaner than the floor?

But no one eats off the bulkhead… or touches it. I think I observed way back somewhere in this thread that people get worried about a shoe on the bulkhead, but think nothing of feet or socks on spare seats or ottomans/footwells if people are laying down. The latter would be rife with germs!

 

[Forg]

But no one eats off the bulkhead… or touches it. I think I observed way back somewhere in this thread that people get worried about a shoe on the bulkhead, but think nothing of feet or socks on spare seats or ottomans/footwells if people are laying down. The latter would be rife with germs!

I still think that FA’s should be issued with (airline monogrammed) machetes, they can decide whether the blood that needs cleaning-up is worse than the stinky feet being waved in the air, and it’s all taken care of.

Although maybe it’s a tad harsh to pile another responsibility on them.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I still think that FA’s should be issued with (airline monogrammed) machetes, they can decide whether the blood that needs cleaning-up is worse than the stinky feet being waved in the air, and it’s all taken care of.

Although maybe it’s a tad harsh to pile another responsibility on them.

How is a foot on the bulkhead different from a foot on a seat?

 

[Quickstatus]

Surely the bulkhead wall is much cleaner than the floor?

Not according to this thread its not

But no one eats off the bulkhead… or touches it

I would be more concerned about the surfaces that you would touch with your hands.

When was the last time the seatbelt buckles, reclining button, tray table, IFE remote, overhead light switch, overhead locker handle window shades was cleaned? The toilets are probably the cleanest areas.....

Maybe not touch the bulkhead intentionally but I can envisage nonintentional touching which is worse because you dont know you touched something you maybe shouldnt

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Not according to this thread its not


I would be more concerned about the surfaces that you would touch with your hands.

When was the last time the seatbelt buckles, reclining button, tray table, IFE remote, overhead light switch, overhead locker handle window shades was cleaned? The toilets are probably the cleanest areas.....

Maybe not touch the bulkhead intentionally but I can envisage nonintentional touching which is worse because you dont know you touched something you maybe shouldnt

On Virgin they lay the life jacket on the floor prior to the demo!! *that* is grotty!

 

[Quickstatus]

they lay the life jacket on the floor

I suppose this thread is more about the antisocial behaviour than the relative microbological contamination of the various surfaces.

 

[Jurahn]

Not according to this thread its not


I would be more concerned about the surfaces that you would touch with your hands.

When was the last time the seatbelt buckles, reclining button, tray table, IFE remote, overhead light switch, overhead locker handle window shades was cleaned? The toilets are probably the cleanest areas.....

Maybe not touch the bulkhead intentionally but I can envisage nonintentional touching which is worse because you dont know you touched something you maybe shouldnt

The last time those areas were cleaned were probably if Mr J or I travelled on that plane . Long before COVID, we would always (and still do) take sanitising wipes on board and once seated, wipe down all the areas you've mentioned - except for the overhead locker handle, I never think of that one LOL.

 

[Quickstatus]

we would always (and still do) take sanitising wipes on board

Likewise. I look like a germaphobe wiping down hard touchable surfaces.
when they had hot towels on the international, I would use that after wiping my face then hands then hard surfaces but I would still use sanitising wipes after that.

People think they get Bali belly from Bali, but I sometimes wonder if what they expel was picked up onboard.