EK has another oops between BKK and HKG

[munitalP]

As no news says....


27000ft - were they already on descent?


Emergency Exit door opens in explosion on Emirates Airbus A380 | News.com.au

 

[mannej]

Something doesn't add up here - if the door was open mid flight (is it not a plug type door?), would their not have been pressurisation issues up at 27000 feet?

More details needed IMO

 

[Must...Fly!]

Sounds like the facts are not all there. But it is not so much the incident that concerns me than if the reaction of the F/A is true then there are more concerning things going on at EK that I have long suspected...the lack of properly trained F/As. It is not the first time an incident such as this with the cabin crew has occurred.

 

[Awesom Andy]

Air pressure differences mean its impossible to open the door at all at 27,000 feet. Even if it did so, the cabin would have depressurized, with masks dropping down. It's downright impossible to use blankets, pillows, and tape to fill in the gap. I suppose you could perhaps try to make it happen (albeit with extreme difficulty) at a much lower attitude like 2700 feet, but you definitely won't be at that altitude 2 hours into the BKK-HKG flight. It looks like a journalist has too much time on his hands.

 

[eastwest101]

Air pressure differences mean its impossible to open the door at all at 27,000 feet. Even if it did so, the cabin would have depressurized, with masks dropping down. It's downright impossible to use blankets, pillows, and tape to fill in the gap. I suppose you could perhaps try to make it happen (albeit with extreme difficulty) at a much lower attitude like 2700 feet, but you definitely won't be at that altitude 2 hours into the BKK-HKG flight. It looks like a journalist has too much time on his hands.

Something not quite right about this story - is it April 1st already?

Seriously - if the photo on the news.com site is real (and thats a big if) - then all I see is a photo of a closed A380 door with pillows and blankets around. May have had a slow leak? Maybe? Are those A380 doors usually that discoloured and grimy?

 

[The Rok]

So he goes on holiday, catches a chest infection, flys home early, insurance won't cover it, so he decides. Bit of publicity against Emirates will bring results.

The plane is pressurised from the inside out, cold sir cannot simply rush in, it would rush out.

The door is larger than the fuselage section within which it sits, it opens inwards and cannot open out without tearing apart the fuselage in the process, a gap of 4cm is virtually impossible.

The only logical theory is that a seal was damaged, allowing air to rush out. This could be noisy for those nearby. The cabin pressuriser would simply increase the amount of air pumped into the cabin to compensate.

I think this guy is a clown after his 15 minutes of fame.

 

[drron]

It was all those nasty bacteria rushing past him as the air escaped the cabin that gave him his chest infection.:shock:

 

[midcoast1]

Probably a wrong guess . Could one of the emergency slide canisters have gone off .

 

[Major]

This AV Herald's take of the incident

Incident: Emirates A388 near Hong Kong on Feb 11th 2013, whistling door, passenger claims door opened in flight

 

[samh004]

Something not quite right about this story - is it April 1st already?

Seriously - if the photo on the news.com site is real (and thats a big if) - then all I see is a photo of a closed A380 door with pillows and blankets around. May have had a slow leak? Maybe? Are those A380 doors usually that discoloured and grimy?

Looks like one of their doors..

[video=youtube;Nz1dcKh6kv0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz1dcKh6kv0[/video]

 

[Happy Trails]

There couldn't have been too much wrong as the aircraft continued on schedule, back to BKK, four hours later.

 

[anat0l]

I'm confused. If the door was not perfectly sealed, wouldn't it be impossible to pressurise the cabin and thus you couldn't remain at 27,000 ft? So oxygen masks, rapid descent....

If the hole is small enough, I suppose that is not necessarily enough to "equalise" pressure (but enough to feel air escape). A bit like having a large tank of petrol with a tiny pinhole on it.

If the account of the crew's response to the situation is accurate, then that's quite concerning, and I'd hope EK consider those crew be stood down and retrained, if they don't get sacked first, that is. Quite irresponsible and very unprofessional of the crew. (I wonder how the crew on QF30 and QF32 reacted when they had their respective incidents, but I hope that they had level heads and tried to keep the situation calm.)

On top of that, if the passenger seated near the door continued to be "freezing", both him and the crew should've been able to negotiate a solution that would have him move to a different seat, unless the entire plane was completely full (my money is not on this one).


Interesting that the pax being affected holds a pilots licence. Doesn't mean he knows squat about the situation, though..... on the other hand, the Captain may have decided (incorrectly) that there was no issue.


Anyone putting their money on that this is an elaborate hoax? The AV Herald report does not yet have any independent content not already reported by the newspapers. That concerns me.

 

[eastwest101]

This AV Herald's take of the incident

Incident: Emirates A388 near Hong Kong on Feb 11th 2013, whistling door, passenger claims door opened in flight

That is a bit more informative and less hysterical than the original Daily Mail article isn't it?

 

[markis10]

Imagine the shock if you were resting your feet on it!

 

[eastwest101]

Imagine the shock if you were resting your feet on it!

"OMG I think I broke the plane!"

 

[oz_mark]

What is that odour? The delicate odour of pig? sheep? horse? No. It's the odour of a compensation claim in the making.

 

[drron]

I like the Daily Mail picture with an arrow pointing to the green light meaning door open.in the AV herald report a green light means door armed properly.A slight difference.

 

[anat0l]

I like the Daily Mail picture with an arrow pointing to the green light meaning door open.in the AV herald report a green light means door armed properly.A slight difference.

Is that the door indicator light or is that the PA LCD information panel?

If it was any kind of LCD panel, aren't the backlights of such panels usually green anyway?

 

[munitalP]

So he goes on holiday, catches a chest infection, flys home early, insurance won't cover it, so he decides. Bit of publicity against Emirates will bring results.

The plane is pressurised from the inside out, cold sir cannot simply rush in, it would rush out.

The door is larger than the fuselage section within which it sits, it opens inwards and cannot open out without tearing apart the fuselage in the process, a gap of 4cm is virtually impossible.

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Actually you are wrong - Grahams law of effusion states 2 dissimilar pressures will try and equalise - however, I agree that this story is a little ho hum...

 

[munitalP]

Just casting my mind back to my only A380 EK flight, I dont remember a Y class on the J deck - was it up front from J? (or is this story so full of holes it would depressurise?)