V Australia flight emergency on take off at LAX

[Blackadder]

Looks like VA2 made a return to LAX after take off
V-Australia passengers hear explosion from plane on take-off from Los Angeles | News.com.au

Not holding my breath to see the public outcry that Virgin is unsafe,people wiill never flight Virgin Australia again, etc.
Subsitute Qantas for Virgin, and it would be all over the media.

 

[Slats7]

V-Australia passengers hear explosion

Would you believe it?? Qantas are not in the headlines!!



HUNDREDS of Australians are stranded in Los Angeles after a V-Australia flight was forced to make an emergency landing shortly after take off last night. Sydney-bound flight VA02 was due to leave LA shortly after 10pm but the plane was returned to the terminal.
The plane was carrying about 350 passengers who described the incident as an explosion.

Read more: V-Australia passengers hear explosion from plane on take-off from Los Angeles | News.com.au
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[pauly7]

Virgin Australia flight emergency landing at LAX

Looks like VA2 made a return to LAX after take off
V-Australia passengers hear explosion from plane on take-off from Los Angeles | News.com.au

Not holding my breath to see the public outcry that Virgin is unsafe,people wiill never flight Virgin Australia again, etc.
Subsitute Qantas for Virgin, and it would be all over the media.

Will no doubt be buried and ignored due to lack of a kangaroo on the tail.

 

[Homer]

So I guess with only 5 planes, all committed, that means anyone on VA1 this morning isn’t going anywhere?

 

[gumpy]

Come on now... to their credit they reported it... yes they'll probably draw links to the qantas incident... still the media is reporting as they should.

Yes qantas has been in the news a lot lately but they did have some unpleasant issues...

 

[Blackadder]

So I guess with only 5 planes, all committed, that means anyone on VA1 this morning isn’t going anywhere?

No mention of that of on the VA website, but unless they have a dry lease arrangement for scenarios like this.
So much for a full service airline.

Edit: Just checked http://www.sydneyairport.com.au/SACL/International-Departures.html?page=4 Showing a 60min delay on VA 1 atm.

 

[Nigelinoz]

Will no doubt be buried and ignored due to lack of a kangaroo on the tail.

Well it's in every online newspaper( Well the one's I have looked at anyway) and is being covered on radio and tv news so I don't see any "burying" so far,although if you mean that the story will quickly disappear then I guess we shall have to wait and see about that,but with an engine issue you would think there would be an ATSB investigation as well/?
QF gets bad press but it's had a lot of issues lately,but I don't think those issues indicate that QF is unsafe,and I doubt that an engine issue on a 777 indicates that VA is unsafe either.
Anyone who reads Aviation Herald regularly knows that this sort of thing happens nearly every day somewhere in the world,it's just that for some reason the Australian media feel the need to report them on the front page whereas in Europe most of these incidents would hardly make it to page three.
Cheers
N'oz
Edited to add: Here's the Av Herald report:

A V Australia Boeing 777-300, registration VH-VOZ performing flight VA-2 from Los Angeles,CA (USA) to Sydney,NS (Australia) with 305 passengers, rejected takeoff from Los Angeles' runway 25R at low speed after the crew heard a bang and thought they had a problem with a tyre on the nose gear. The airplane stopped after a roll distance of about 440 meters/1440 feet, the crew requested emergency services to check the runway for debris. The crew of another aircraft reported they had seen a spark off the nose gear, the crew of a third aircraft reported they had also seen a fire ball off engine #1 (GE90). The crew decided to hold on the runway and wait for emergency services to arrive and examine the aircraft. The aircraft taxied to the apron about 10 minutes later.

The passengers were taken to hotels and are expected to depart the following day.

V Australia said the crew returned to the terminal as a precaution due to an issue with the performance of the left engine.

 

[jb747]

Channel 9 journalist Kristie Carter, who was on the flight, said everything seemed fine as the plane went to take off."Then there was a really loud bang. The whole cabin shook, the next minute we hit back on the runway and the plane came to a screeching halt," she said.

Everything seemed fine....well, it always does until just before 'it' happens.
There was a really loud bang. The whole cabin shook....ok, sounds like an engine failure.
The next minute we were back on the runway....Well, you were there and that can't really be right. Engine failure to abort is about 2 seconds. You would not have been 'off' the runway, so you can't really get back to it. You simply cannot abort a heavy aircraft after nose gear lift off, or airborne...end of story.
Plane came to a screeching halt...yep, that's what an abort is like. Tends to be better than not stopping before the end of the black stuff.

 

[AaronBradford]

Will Horton posted on Twitter that V Australia will be chartering a 747 to get PAX from LAX to SYD: Twitter

 

[hummel]

Everything seemed fine....well, it always does until just before 'it' happens.
There was a really loud bang. The whole cabin shook....ok, sounds like an engine failure.
The next minute we were back on the runway....Well, you were there and that can't really be right. Engine failure to abort is about 2 seconds. You would not have been 'off' the runway, so you can't really get back to it. You simply cannot abort a heavy aircraft after nose gear lift off, or airborne...end of story.
Plane came to a screeching halt...yep, that's what an abort is like. Tends to be better than not stopping before the end of the black stuff.

I saw her 'report' on the Today show this morning. What a crock...She said that the plan was off the ground then landed again and the pilot was useing everything to stop the plane on the runway.

Next time they should just keep climbing away with a possible engine failure.. :shock:

 

[Nigelinoz]

Will Horton posted on Twitter that V Australia will be chartering a 747 to get PAX from LAX to SYD: Twitter

Geez I hope it's not one of the old,decrepit QF 74's.:mrgreen::mrgreen:
Note that I was being sarcastic there-just in case anyone thinks I'm having a go at QF.

 

[Saab34]

Looks like they have cancelled BNE-LAX this morning, which sounds like they are going to send the 777 down to SYD to operate VA1.

 

[oz_mark]

The next minute we were back on the runway....Well, you were there and that can't really be right. Engine failure to abort is about 2 seconds. You would not have been 'off' the runway, so you can't really get back to it. You simply cannot abort a heavy aircraft after nose gear lift off, or airborne...end of story.

Well, you could, but the outcome might be very different :shock:

 

[Homer]

Looks like they have cancelled BNE-LAX this morning, which sounds like they are going to send the 777 down to SYD to operate VA1.

VA7 is showing as cancelled so you may be right. I wonder how decisions like this are made? Is it just about flight loading, ie are there more pax ticked on VA1 so that gets priority? With an aircraft currently stuck at LAX the VA schedule will need some juggling if they don’t get it away in the next six hours or so.

 

[crazydave98]

Geez I hope it's not one of the old,decrepit QF 74's.:mrgreen::mrgreen:
Note that I was being sarcastic there-just in case anyone thinks I'm having a go at QF.

no it's a nicely fitted out NZ one.

VA7 BNE-LAX is to be cancelled with all J class guests transferred to Qantas BNE-LAX flight and all other W and Y class guests, to be uplifted by charter flight to be operated by Air New Zealand.
NZ1950 BNE-LAX - Departing BNE at 1300Z/2300L and arriving LAX at 0205Z/1905L.
If our VA8 LAX-BNE on Saturday night (BNE local time) remains unserviceable Air New Zealand will operate this service.

 

[Nigelinoz]

Good post crazydave98,informative as usual,regardless of our members views regarding airline preference etc I think we are very fortunate here on AFF that we have company reps like yourself,(and others) who are so willing to jump in and provide information when it's required.
Cheers
N'oz

 

[Undercover Brother]

Re: Virgin Australia aborted take-off at LAX

The Air New Zealand 747 is already nearly in Brisbane, making great time!

Also I object to the use of the word 'emergency' in the title of this thread. I have changed the title of my reply accordingly.

 

[jb747]

My point was there here is a case in which the journalist was on the aircraft, and yet the story still comes across as the standard media hype.

It sounds like it was a perfectly well handled low speed abort. RTO ALWAYS comes in with a 'bang', so in low speed cases you will initially have more braking than you really need, but it's easy enough to get rid of it, and way better than not having enough.

What is low speed? Depends a bit on the type of aircraft, but generally up to about 100 knots (200 kph)....all things are relative. In this case, if the aircraft has had an engine that has compressor stalled, or otherwise played up, at initial power selection, I'd be surprised if it got to 50 knots.

 

[anat0l]

My point was there here is a case in which the journalist was on the aircraft, and yet the story still comes across as the standard media hype.

Hey come on, we've had celebrities on QF aircraft making a huge brouhaha just for a go-around. (Yes, you've explained that one before).

So it doesn't matter if you're on the aircraft or off it, the media knows how to screw it up.

 

[straitman]

Re: V Australia emergency on take-off at LAX

Also I object to the use of the word 'emergency' in the title of this thread. I have changed the title of my reply accordingly.

I have edited the title to refer to take off rather than landing but have left the word emergencey in the title because that is what it was at the time.