horror experience with emirates

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davidgreene

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i write to you in regard to my recent unpleasant experience flying with Emirates airlines.
I booked 5 return flights at the Emirates office in Perth for myself, my partner and my 3 children to fly to Paris via Dubai with Emirates. I had a connecting flight from Paris to Dublin with Aer Lingus. This was supposed to be our big family vacation, an occasion which was supposed to be a holiday of a life time for all concerned, a first ever visit for my children to visit their family in Ireland, to attend my brother’s wedding and my nephew’s christening.
The 5 return tickets to Paris cost over $10,000.
The major complaint I have with this air line is that you lost all our luggage en route to Paris and took 9 days to return our bags, but if only that was the only issue.
Below is a brief overview of our experience with your air line.

3rd July 2008 – Our party of 5 checked in at Emirates desk at Perth International at approx 3 am to avoid the children having to queue. We inform the Emirates employee that we have a connecting flight from Paris to Dublin with Aer Lingus and require our bags to be checked all the way through to Dublin. The emirates desk employee adamantly informs us that it not possible to check our bags through to Dublin as this is a different air line. He insists that we will have to remove our luggage at Paris and take it to the Aer Lingus desk. Shocked by this sudden policy change in international air travel, I argued this with the emirates employee for some time until he finally agrees to refer the matter to his supervisor who promptly instructs him to check the luggage through to Dublin as requested. I don’t know if this problem was caused by arrogance, ignorance or laziness on the part of the check in employee.

3rd July 2008 – On arrival at Dublin airport, we went to baggage claim to pick up our bags, to our horror none of our bags had arrived. We immediately informed Aer Lingus lost baggage counter at Dublin airport, they took our details and issued us with a lost baggage claim reference, . We can accept that sometimes a bag can be mislaid but when all our luggage is mislaid, that cannot be explained as purely accidental

4th July – 9th July – we contact Emirates office in London, they advise that they cannot assist with locating our luggage. We contact Emirates office in Paris, they are extremely difficult and unhelpful, they disclaim any responsibility and inform us that this is an Aer Lingus problem as they are the final carrier, we inform Emirates Paris that Aer Lingus didn’t lose our luggage but Emirates Paris are completely disinterested. We contact Emirates in Dubai but again we get a similar response as we got from Emirates Paris. Meanwhile we are in daily contact with Aer Lingus lost baggage office in Dublin, Aer Lingus staff were most helpful, they returned our calls as promised and were in regular contact with Emirates staff at both Paris and Dubai. Meanwhile from 3rd July to 10th July my partner, my 3 children and I were left without any clothing or personal belongings. Amongst items in our lost luggage that caused most distress were my daughters’ dresses which were specially made for my brother’s wedding, my children’s dolls which they have had since they were babies, and christening and wedding presents. We were forced to attend my brother’s wedding and my nephew’s christening in substandard replacement clothing and of course did not have the gifts that we purchased. What had been planned to be a joyous family reunion was quickly turning into a nightmare.

9th July – Aer Lingus inform us that 1 of our bags had been located in Paris. The bag is delivered on the 9th July, all tags, luggage ref numbers and my name still on the bag. At this stage we were just glad that our luggage had finally been located but with all original tags, names and numbers still on the bag we’re stunned that it’d taken so long for Emirates to locate the bags.

10th July – Aer Lingus inform us that the 2nd bag had been located in Paris. The bag is delivered on the 10th July, again all tags, luggage ref numbers and my name still on the bag. Why both bags weren’t returned together is a mystery.

24th July – we attempt to check in at Emirates desk in Paris to return home to Perth. The Emirates employee at the check in desk informs us that my 7 year old daughter’s passport is invalid and she cannot travel with us. We were again stunned by this, my daughter’s passport was only issues by the Australian passport office in June ’08, she had travelled from Perth to Dublin, via Dubai and Paris on this passport without any problems and now suddenly her passport is no good. The child is completely distressed and sobbing at the check in counter as the Emirates check-in representative adamantly insists the passport is not valid, I show her the stamps from the previous legs of our “holiday of a lifetime” but to no avail, as far as this Emirates employee was concerned, my daughter was not gong to travel with us. I ask her to get her supervisor, reluctantly she calls someone to review the issue, after some time the supervisor advises that there’s a problem with their computer and all is good with the passport. Does the Emirates check-in rep offer any apology for her adamant refusal to let the 7 year old travel? No chance!
We ask the check-in rep to confirm our vegetarian meals which we ordered in Perth prior to setting off on the start of our journey. Unsurprisingly, there is no record of vegetarian meals being ordered. We ask if vegetarian meals could be arranged, absolutely not she replies, 48 hours notice is required for special meals. I booked the vegetarian meals 6 weeks prior to this but that doesn’t matter apparently.

25th July – we’re on the final leg of our trip home, just happy to be getting off this disaster of a holiday, Emirates cabin crew are serving drinks, my son is sitting on an aisle seat, the stewardess attempts to reach across my son to give a drink to a passenger sitting inside him, she drops the entire glass of drink on his head. Does she offer an apology? Absolutely not! She hands him a couple of serviettes and keeps going. The poor child is left sitting there dripping in orange juice with his chair soaking, I tell him he’s lucky she wasn’t giving the other passenger a cup of coffee or he would have been heading to the burns unit. Finally, just to add some comic relief to this trip from hell, as every one is relaxing, watching a movie or whatever, the stewardess for no apparent reason runs down the aisle from the middle of the plane to the back waving her hands frantically in the air like she’s been chased by a gun wielding terrorist. I look around to see startled passengers darting looks around the cabin in search of the person who had frightened the stewardess so badly to cause her to run like an Olympic sprinter through the plane, fortunately for all concerned, it’s a false alarm, though none of us would have been surprised whatever had happened, such was the catalogue of disasters we encountered with your airline

My question now is what compensation Emirates airlines are prepared to offer my family and I, to in some way make up for the appalling customer service we experienced. I would expect far better from an airline purporting to be a world leader in it’s field. Am I to believe that our experience was a one off isolated incident that doesn’t accurately reflect their standard of customer care and professionalism? I suspect their handling of my complaint will indicate their degree of commitment to customer care and good public relations.
 
Welcome to AFF, davidgreene. I am sorry to hear of your unpleasant experience with Emirates.

I was just wondering if you booked your Aer Lingus flight on a seperate ticket to your Emirates flights? You're probably aware that Aer Lingus has morphed itself into a low cost carrier in recent years, and along with this change might no longer be accepting interlined baggage from seperately ticketed flights on other carriers - which might explain the refusal on the part of the C/I agent at PER to check your bags through to DUB, and more importantly - why your bags were stuck at CDG.

Further, Emirates is right in referring you back to Aer Lingus with regard to your lost bags. Sounds silly and in many cases doesn't make a lot of sense, but IATA mandates that the final transporting carrier has the responsibility of sorting out any baggage issues. In Dec 2006 my bag and i flew seperately to WAS - UA had my bag at IAD whilst US flew me to DCA - the joys of IRROPS; UA refused to lift a finger even though they clearly had my bag all along and would know its whereabouts and could organise its transfer with a few key strokes. I was told that US would sort it all out per standard procedure - which they did but with a 48 hr delay as they had difficulties contacting UA to fish out my bag.

As for your complaint to Emirates, I'd suggest being succinct and to the point - leave out the 'comic relief' bit as it's IMO irrelevant to your case.

Good luck.
 
Your best approach is to write a letter to Emirates explaining what happened. Perhaps even call them to check where you can send your letter.
You may or may not get a satisfactory reply but I've always found a letter is the best approach.
 
Does sound like totally shocking service and hope that Emirates comes good with some compensation.
Certainly fits with a few other horror Emirates Y stories I have heard, they seem to put all the focus on the front of the bus.


Absolutely amazed that you only had two check-in bags for a party of five.
 
On 4 separate occasions members of my family have travelled Emirates from Australia to CDG.2 in F,1 in J and 1 in Y.On each occasion at least one bag went for a trip of its own.
 
Hearing this doesn't surprise me at all. We had a horror experience coming back from Dubai last December on Emirates.

I got a chocolate and drink and 5 mins later my wife asks for one from the stewardess and she says no you cannot have them. After pointing out to her that 5 mins earlier I got one, she grumbles to herself and walks off to get it.

They also missed 5 entire rows during the dinner drinks service.

They also got into Syd late which caused me to miss a connecting flight. It took them 3 months to get a letter to me so i could submit the letter to my insurance to pay for compo. They had no idea on how to respond and were always rude and dismissive.

I feel for you and I suggest you throw the book at them as much as possible because for an airline that is meant to pride themself as a premier world airline, they simply are cough.
 
Well, I'm shocked! :rolleyes:
So am I!

We all know that middle eastern airlines (eg Etihad) provide the world's best service.

Buyer beware, I say. I have travelled one sector in business class on Emirates on a round the world C class ticket. It was very ordinary indeed, with surly service from Korean FA's, but I didn't really have any alternative, and I don't think the FF miles ever showed up either.
 
My parents flew Emirates mid last year MEL-Dubai-milan.

On the outbound, on top of the 8 hr wait in dubai, they decidied that the flight would go via Florence that day (? for no apparent reason!)

On the return flight, dubai-MEL, bearing in mind they were in F, they had two toddlers running up and down the aisle whilst the 2 parents sat in 1A and 1C and did nothing. The thing that annoyed them (apart from the parents) was that the crew seemed to have no idea how to handle the situation. They seemed paralysed by fear that the customers in 1AC would be annoyed to be told to keep their children under control and ? wouldnt fly EK again. Instead, they lost the rest of the F cabin passnegers who ALL asked for complaint forms as they disembarked.

Oh, and it's not like my parents were on a once in a lifetime trip. One is CL, one WP in their own right (as well as CL parter). Needless to say they wont be straying from QF/Oneworld again for a while.
 
i have mixed feelings about emirates.
I used to fly them about 8 - 10 times per year MEL - DXB (and return) in J or F and, whilst F was fine, i really hated J due to the terrible seats. most flights there would be rude service (esp by male flight attendants for some reason), forgotten orders, and the number of times i have asked a driver in dubai to pull over and get some air to wake up i could not tell you. I also didn't like their ICE system. many channels but mostly cr*p and heavily censored.

but then sometimes they would surprise me and i would have almost the perfect flight (needless to say in F) with great service, endless champagne/wine and a driver in dubai that was actually awake at the wheel.
haven't flown them since april 2007 however..
 
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Personally I have only had excellent experiences with Emirates, allbeit that I have only used 1st class

With the OPs issue

With the way it is described "The 5 return tickets to Paris cost over $10,000" it would seem to me that the person had puchased return travel to Paris plus return travel from Paris to Dublin

If this is the case, then the airline is not required ( or should be expected to) check the bags onto EI was correct in that their policy is not to check bags through

With the missing bags, it is the final carrier (EI) that is responsible for the tracing of the bags and Emirates in London and Paris were correct in passing the passenger back to EI

As far as the check in issue on return goes, it is hard to say, but if the system shows that the child does not have documents which make her eligable to travel, then must refuse to allow check in. it see,s like it was resolved reasonably promptly

Dave
 
I've only flown EK F about 4 times but always found them to be very good. Admittedly a lot of the fleet is tired now (the new suites are awesome), but never had any complaints. The fares are usually keen and the service is usually good.

I wouldn't say they are outstanding but I think thats the cultural differences between running a airline with multinational staff and airlines primarily operated by the countrys own nationals. Hence, I find Asian carriers better in terms of service at present.

However, since I herald from the UK I can tell you that Air Lingus is considered by most in Europe to be one of the most rubbish budget airlines around. I'd be glad you got there, never mind the luggage ;)
 
Good luck with the complaint letter mate.

Irrespective of who's fault it was that the luggage was lost, etc. the service and attitude sounded appalling and I am absolutely sick of companies in the service industry that think they can get away with this attitude.

Anyway, at least you have complained promptly. :)

Cheers
 
Doesn't surprise me at all. Emirates service levels are at a all time low. I have flown them twice in the past 18 months and had such a bad experience that I would never fly them again. Don't expect a reply from their customer service area as I am still waiting for mine that I sent 8 months ago.

They may have great in-flight product but the cabin and airport service is just terrible.

 
My Parents absolutely swear by Emirates - they have flown whY and J. On the last whY trip they had forgotten to put on a special meal for my mum so they gave her F food for the entire trip.

One of the key benefits for them is the direct DXB-SYD/BNE flight - if only QF did one of those I could use points to get my parents here :(
 
Thing is with this thread, you could replace the word Emirates with Qantas, British Airways, Thai, Singapore, United....etc etc and nobody would batter an eye lid. All international airlines have bad days. And sometimes you can be on the receiving end of a few of them in a row to produce a frustrating holiday, but that's just the luck of the draw of international travel.

For the record I've flow EK once in economy MEL-SIN-DXB-LHR-DXB-SIN-MEL and had a fantastic experience.

A lot of the times it's simply luck of the draw. intenrational air travel is ALWAYS a gamble to a certain extent regardless of the airline you chose or the class of seat you buy.
 
Thing is with this thread, you could replace the word Emirates with Qantas, British Airways, Thai, Singapore, United....etc etc and nobody would batter an eye lid. All international airlines have bad days. And sometimes you can be on the receiving end of a few of them in a row to produce a frustrating holiday, but that's just the luck of the draw of international travel.

For the record I've flow EK once in economy MEL-SIN-DXB-LHR-DXB-SIN-MEL and had a fantastic experience.

A lot of the times it's simply luck of the draw. intenrational air travel is ALWAYS a gamble to a certain extent regardless of the airline you chose or the class of seat you buy.

I agree, all airlines have their good and bad days, some average out higher than others and they will tend to be the ones I stick with.

My 5 cents, flown EK about 4 times. 3 times were fine, 1 time was horrific - incredibly rude staff, poor catering (flying J). I just am careful to book their new aircraft if possible as well...

I don't know about others but I had the perception all their aircraft were brand new with best seats etc and was rudely shocked when some of the 777's have J class like QF's domestic product! Again, it was just the impression I had of them, must have been sucked in by their marketing.. .doh:cool:
 
Dave Noble said:
As far as the check in issue on return goes, it is hard to say, but if the system shows that the child does not have documents which make her eligable to travel, then must refuse to allow check in. it see,s like it was resolved reasonably promptly

Dave

Any issue like this is easily resolved by reverting to source documents. It should never have been an issue, even with the villiage idiots you were obviously lumbered in dealing with.

All my flights with Emirates have been incident free and quite good. F is great, J OK, but seats quite small. Y - i have been told terrible.

The checkin agent in Perth would most probably been a QF agent (Perth people are not the most savvy travellers having lived there)

Cheers SPRUCE :evil:
 
I've personally never been the recipient of poor service on EK, but I recently recommended EK to a friend for his trip to Paris as he didn't care about FFPs and they were the cheapest. He got back 3 days ago... my ears are still burning. :oops:
 
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