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Hypothetical: If a person who at one stage held, albeit temporariiy, the highest job in our nation, had / is having an affair, is it in the public interest, esp if he is now seeking reelection? Just wondering....

Depends on his public persona. If hes fire and brimstone, God is good, all the rest of us are bad, gay is a sin, you should all do as I say and not as I do blah blah blah - release the video/photos of him diddling the office junior (hopefully male).

If hes just a dude, OK with how others live their lives but still does his job well, then Im meh. I'll worry about my own life and marriage before I waste energy on what an old guy is up to with his and his cough prescription.
 
Who said BA has no heart-

Now Im hooked, off to Youtube to see some more (if available)
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Hypothetical: If a person who at one stage held, albeit temporariiy, the highest job in our nation, had / is having an affair, is it in the public interest, esp if he is now seeking reelection? Just wondering....
As long as he / she doesn’t try influence <possibly related> issues.
 
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Hypothetical: If a person who at one stage held, albeit temporariiy, the highest job in our nation, had / is having an affair, is it in the public interest, esp if he is now seeking reelection? Just wondering....
Well it was for President Clinton. In the highest jobs or being a public figure (actor etc), there is very limited private life that can be (or is) kept quiet.
 
My view is that as long as it is consensual, no public benefit accrues to the other person and that the person seeking re-election doean't make any hypocritical comments about 'family values' etc then I don't believe it is in the public interest.

Bingo
 
A friends mother - in her 90’s - just inherited her brothers house, cash and shares. Around $750k. All she’s worried about is that she will lose her pension. And while it won’t solve her pension issues to do so, she refuses to give any of it to her daughter who could probably do with it to improve her basic lifestyle.

Once I get to a certain age and travel off the radar, the kids will get some money. I’d rather be alive to see them enjoy it.

My Godmother would always quote, "There's no point being the richest person in the grave yard." after she saw some article about fights over money or people caught defrauding the tax man.

Some peoples' attitude to tax is worth 1,000 studies.

Best example, post October 1987 stock market crash (Australia down nearly 50%) - as we were the only fund manager to out-perform and get positive returns for the Dec qtr 87 - super fund trustees wanted to know why we were projecting paying tax while their other fund managers had said they'd not pay tax for a couple of years!

Answered as diplomatically (but extremely frustratedly) meeting after meeting for the next two years - as we had out-performed and INCREASED the value of their super fund - there would be some tax payable. The reason their other fund managers were 'providing a tax holiday' was that they had lost in excess of 25% of the money they managed. So until they achieved around 40% performance (making up the lost ground from 75% back to break even 100% AND a bit more to offset the dividend imputation credits) they had substantial tax losses. Due to some effective purchasing of hybrid instruments the 'extreme' tax rate we ended up paying was just under 2% - yet they complained!

As it turned out many managers got badly whip-sawed. Selling out in the aftermath of the 87 crash, raising cash levels massively as we were going to have a 1929-style depression -so they then missed a big chunk of the rebound. One manager, Equitlink, even took out full-page adverts in all the major daily papers and AFR etc - saying that no client of theirs would be paying the super tax for at least the next three years. Guess why?
 
JohnK you must get the guys that took 1 billion dollars out of the country from a Coal fired power plant. They also got $117 million dollars in Carbon Compo.


How French energy giant Engie plundered $1b from Australia ahead of carbon tax



Coal-fired plant shifted $1bn offshore while pocketing $117m from Australian taxpayers

They did this in one day and apparently it is also legal. Below a diagram of how they did it.(Low res) IIRC about 60 transactions to pull this heist legal transfer off.

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Unfortunately this is happening every day in most countries around the world.

One of the worst examples is with companies that have just been taken over. The new owner, refinances Company AAA with non-recourse debt holding out the carrot that they 'may' increase their business with the refinancing banks (never happens). Naturally this refinancing increases the total debt load for the company AAA. Now company AAA decides to pay a dividend (or forgive an inter-company loan) and guess where it gets the cash from?

Quite often these dividends just happen to total more than the equity used to buy-out company AAA in the first place.

A couple of years down the track after assets have been stripped out of company AAA, it generally goes bankrupt leaving lots of small business and the banks facing losses up to 99 cents in the dollar. Meanwhile the owner has made several times what they originally put up to buy it.

Oh the wonderful world of takeovers, private equity and investment banks.
 
I wonder if the neighbours realise that their neighbours, ie us, could pick that their marriage was in trouble before they knew it (or admitted it) themselves?

Most are creatures of habit so when one starts changing things up, it gets noticed/gut instinct.
 
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My Godmother would always quote, "There's no point being the richest person in the grave yard." after she saw some article about fights over money or people caught defrauding the tax man.

Some peoples' attitude to tax is worth 1,000 studies.

Best example, post October 1987 stock market crash (Australia down nearly 50%) - as we were the only fund manager to out-perform and get positive returns for the Dec qtr 87 - super fund trustees wanted to know why we were projecting paying tax while their other fund managers had said they'd not pay tax for a couple of years!

Answered as diplomatically (but extremely frustratedly) meeting after meeting for the next two years - as we had out-performed and INCREASED the value of their super fund - there would be some tax payable. The reason their other fund managers were 'providing a tax holiday' was that they had lost in excess of 25% of the money they managed. So until they achieved around 40% performance (making up the lost ground from 75% back to break even 100% AND a bit more to offset the dividend imputation credits) they had substantial tax losses. Due to some effective purchasing of hybrid instruments the 'extreme' tax rate we ended up paying was just under 2% - yet they complained!

As it turned out many managers got badly whip-sawed. Selling out in the aftermath of the 87 crash, raising cash levels massively as we were going to have a 1929-style depression -so they then missed a big chunk of the rebound. One manager, Equitlink, even took out full-page adverts in all the major daily papers and AFR etc - saying that no client of theirs would be paying the super tax for at least the next three years. Guess why?

Flight to quality? Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance?
 
Just checking - it is OK to have alcohol in checked luggage when going through Dubai isn't it and I don't have to declare it
 
Unfortunately this is happening every day in most countries around the world.

One of the worst examples is with companies that have just been taken over. The new owner, refinances Company AAA with non-recourse debt holding out the carrot that they 'may' increase their business with the refinancing banks (never happens). Naturally this refinancing increases the total debt load for the company AAA. Now company AAA decides to pay a dividend (or forgive an inter-company loan) and guess where it gets the cash from?

Quite often these dividends just happen to total more than the equity used to buy-out company AAA in the first place.

A couple of years down the track after assets have been stripped out of company AAA, it generally goes bankrupt leaving lots of small business and the banks facing losses up to 99 cents in the dollar. Meanwhile the owner has made several times what they originally put up to buy it.

Oh the wonderful world of takeovers, private equity and investment banks.
Well Dick Smith is a prime example.
 
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