ALL QF's 330's to get lay flat Business seating - Including Domestic

[Andyzx]

[UPDATE: 26 Sep 2015]

Updated for the EBF/EBE shuffle.

Based on Qantas Source posts / FR24 data / YSSY board / above

-- Current aircraft in Brisbane maintenance
VH-QPE 330-300 In 4/8/15 (SIN repaint 25/4-12/5) Expect out early-Oct
VH-EBE - In 25/9/15 (still in JQ paint). Expect to SIN~23/10

-- Summary
Refurb complete
A330-300 5 / 10 - QPA, QPB, QPC, QPD, QPI
A330-200 7 / 18 - EBA, EBB, EBF, EBJ, EBK, EBS, EBV
330-300s - 28J/ 269Y, J Panasonic ex3 16" IFE, Y Panasonic exLite 11" IFE
330-200s - 28J/ 243Y, J Panasonic ex3 16" IFE, Y Panasonic 9" IFE (8. EBM-EBS, EBV), 8" iPadMini (10. EBA-EBG, EBJ-EBL)
Notes.
- QPI yet to be painted to New Roo
- 18 final 330-200s are EBA-EBG, EBJ-EBS, EBV (EBH, EBI to RAAF, EBT, EBU never registered)

-- Refurbishment history
VH-EBV 330-200 - 1mth 15days - In 16/11/14 Out 31/12/14
VH-QPA 330-300 - 2mth 13days - In 3/11/14 Out 16/1/15, C8 check (SIN repaint 2/8-20/8 )
VH-EBA 330-200 - 1mth 12days - In 1/1/15 Out 13/2/15
VH-QPC 330-300 - 2mth 6days - In 17/1/15 Out 23/3/15, C8 check (SIN repaint 16/7/15-2/8/15 )
VH-EBJ 330-200 - 1mth 3days - In 14/3/15 Out 17/4/15 (SIN repaint 27/2-13/3)
VH-QPB 330-300 - 2mth 7 days - In 16/2/15 Out 23/4/15 (SIN repaint 31/1-16/2, C8 check)
VH-EBS 330-200 - 30days - In 26/4/15 Out 25/5/15
VH-QPD 330-300 - 2mth 2 days - In 23/4/15 - out 25/6/15 (SIN repaint 15/3-30/3, C8 check)
VH-EBB 330-200 - 27 days - In 8/6/15 - Out 4/7/15
VH-QPI 330-300 - 28 days - In 7/7/15 Out 3/8/15 (Still needs repaint, no C check)
VH-EBK 330-200 - 31 days - In 22/7/15 Out 22/8/15 (SIN repaint 22/8-9/9)
VH-EBF 330-200 - 28 days - In 27/8/15 Out 23/9/15 (SIN repaint 5/8/15-26/8 from JQ)

-- In Singapore for painting -300s only (all the -200s are already New Roo apart from the VH-EBE)
None

-- Likely next
VH-QPF 330-300 SIN repaint 13/7-29/7

-- 330-200 configs
5 - Dom with Business Suite, QStreaming iPads - EBA, EBB, EBF, EBJ, EBK
2 - Int/Dom with Business Suite, Panasonic AVOD - EBS, EBV
2 - Int/Dom with SkyBed I, RC AVOD - EBG, EBL
4 - Dom with 2x3x2 J workbench, Panasonic AVOD - EBO, EBP, EBQ, EBR
2 - Dom with 2x2x2 J, Panasonic AVOD - EBM, EBN
2 - Dom with 2x2x2 38 seats, QStreaming iPads- EBC, EBD
1 - Being refurbed - EBE

---

As reported in The Australian today

Southeast Asian flights to improve the number of connections by an estimated 25 per cent. The airline will upgrade services on Airbus A330 flights to Asia that are expected to include the introduction of lie-flat seats in business class. Officials will also argue that the diversion of London-bound travellers through Dubai will see 40 per cent more seats available for travel to Asia.

By lie flat i assume that mean Skybed 2 which would suggest that the A330 current and comming from J* will be the regional plane.

Good to see that we will have plenty of seats 40% more but not sure what the base is...

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[ajw373]

Re: Airbus A330 flights expected to include the introduction of lie-flat seats in bus

Two problems. Firstly the Jet Star aircraft won't be coming in a hurry. Secondly the orginal batch needed floor strengthening to take the old skybed, so don't see that happening.

The one question I've had about Qantas' plan to continue to retire 747's and move the LHR flight through DXB is what a/c are they going to use to replace the 747's and change to A330 services to Asia. They need them next year. The 787 would have been the perfect answer being a smaller aircraft than an A330-300 but with better range. So it leaves the question what a/c will Qantas use to service Asia? (hmmm thinking maybe some ex EK ones refitted)

 

[markis10]

Re: Airbus A330 flights expected to include the introduction of lie-flat seats in bus

QF will get some aircraft freed up by not operating SIN to ADL and PER, both are on the cutting list as marginal with through traffic.

 

[casanovawa]

Re: Airbus A330 flights expected to include the introduction of lie-flat seats in bus

Hmmm, so more QF flights to South East Asia.... From just Sydney (or the East Coast)...

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Re: Airbus A330 flights expected to include the introduction of lie-flat seats in bus

surely there is 3 or so spare 747's once FRA ends which they may use as well, in the short term

 

[markis10]

Re: Airbus A330 flights expected to include the introduction of lie-flat seats in bus

surely there is 3 or so spare 747's once FRA ends which they may use as well, in the short term

FRA cannot be serviced with the 9 left, while there may be a few spare when it happens, retirements will soon mean no spare 744 capacity.

 

[moa999]

Re: Airbus A330 flights expected to include the introduction of lie-flat seats in bus

SO more SkyBed IIs with their "droop" issue - how to make a lie flat/fully flat a regular flat seat

 

[ajw373]

Re: Airbus A330 flights expected to include the introduction of lie-flat seats in bus

FRA cannot be serviced with the 9 left, while there may be a few spare when it happens, retirements will soon mean no spare 744 capacity.

That's not what he was saying. He was saying the a/c freed up by NOT flying to FRA can be used elsewhere, but like you I would have thought the discontinuation of FRA would mean their exit from the fleet.

 

[ajw373]

Re: Airbus A330 flights expected to include the introduction of lie-flat seats in bus

QF will get some aircraft freed up by not operating SIN to ADL and PER, both are on the cutting list as marginal with through traffic.

Where and when was that been announced?

 

[markis10]

Re: Airbus A330 flights expected to include the introduction of lie-flat seats in bus

Where and when was that been announced?

QF have hinted at it in both the ACCC apps and Steve Creedys article today in the Australian, it make sense, the routes are barely breaking even now, if 40% of that traffic is Euro bound, then once the codeshares via EK happen, they are gone. EK can then move in, fly direct to PER and ADL and also open new business with codeshares from there to NZ to fully utilise the aircraft.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Re: Airbus A330 flights expected to include the introduction of lie-flat seats in bus

That's not what he was saying. He was saying the a/c freed up by NOT flying to FRA can be used elsewhere, but like you I would have thought the discontinuation of FRA would mean their exit from the fleet.

they may decide to keep them on to service SIN, 2 of them could do one daily each on mel-sin and syd-sin. it could be a temporary measure until other aircraft are found.

 

[medhead]

they may decide to keep them on to service SIN, 2 of them could do one daily each on mel-sin and syd-sin. it could be a temporary measure until other aircraft are found.

The story in the Oz today explicitly says no 747s to [-]Asia[/-] SIN.


Sent from the Throne

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Re: Airbus A330 flights expected to include the introduction of lie-flat seats in bus

The story in the Oz today explicitly says no 747s to Asia.


Sent from the Throne

Oh well I thought I read earlier at least NRT remained a 747 destination

 

[oz_mark]

Re: Airbus A330 flights expected to include the introduction of lie-flat seats in bus

By lie flat i assume that mean Skybed 2 which would suggest that the A330 current and comming from J* will be the regional plane.

Don't they use the phrase 'Fully Flat' when they mean Skybed2 ?

 

[Willie]

Re: Airbus A330 flights expected to include the introduction of lie-flat seats in bus

How about some premium whY on the 330s if they are going to be Asian focused????

Really, QF do need to get with the program - but it might just be too late!

OOh ROo

Willie

 

[ajw373]

Re: Airbus A330 flights expected to include the introduction of lie-flat seats in bus

How about some premium whY on the 330s if they are going to be Asian focused????

Really, QF do need to get with the program - but it might just be too late!

OOh ROo

Willie

Oh you mean like the premium economy that SQ, TG, MH, EK, KE etc have on their flights to Asia?

But yeah it is a surprise that Qantas doesn't offer premium economy on their medium haul network for product consistency and to show the rest hows it's done.

 

[serfty]

Re: Airbus A330 flights expected to include the introduction of lie-flat seats in bus

Oh you mean like the premium economy that SQ, TG, MH, EK, KE etc have on their flights to Asia?

But yeah it is a surprise that Qantas doesn't offer premium economy on their medium haul network for product consistency and to show the rest hows it's done.

Given the mooted installtion of Mk II skybeds, I would not be surprised if PE also finds it way into the international 330's.

 

[medhead]

Oh well I thought I read earlier at least NRT remained a 747 destination

Whoops. Yes that was also the case. Perhaps I mean just SIN.


Sent from the Throne

 

[Willie]

Re: Airbus A330 flights expected to include the introduction of lie-flat seats in bus

Given the mooted installtion of Mk II skybeds, I would not be surprised if PE also finds it way into the international 330's.

If it was going to happen you think that QF would be telling us all - heavens they need as many good news stories as they can get.

Ooh Roo

WIllie

 

[markis10]

Re: Airbus A330 flights expected to include the introduction of lie-flat seats in bus

If it was going to happen you think that QF would be telling us all - heavens they need as many good news stories as they can get.

Ooh Roo

WIllie

I think they are still trying to work out how to cover the move of aircraft from Sin, FRA is a net gain of zero aircraft once the 747 fleet is down to 9.The BNE SIN 747 and SYD NRT services also need replacements soon.