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It is interesting to speculate on whether the various health and economic outcomes you mentioned will be better in Vic and NSW vs all the other states. Perhaps it is difficult for many Vic and NSW (or Sydney) residents to understand just how normal life has been outside those states for the vast...

With the appropriate carrots and sticks I suspect the same end result can be reached. Large outbreaks are a large and effective stick but there would be many other possibilities that are cheaper and less disruptive. So no, I don't buy that anyone 'needs' an outbreak to get high vaccination rates.

Can't be large numbers of cases 'for a long time' or some would have inevitably ended up needing hospitalization. The latter haven't appeared, so the former didn't happen (yet).

If the people don't comply, it's not a lockdown.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-09/Intensive_Care_Capacity.pdf

Less armchair blah blah and more models please.

A critique of the Doherty report: Australian public fed nonsense as country heads to “irreversible” decision.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.18.21262252v1 Modelling on the topic of interactions between vaccine rollout and the potential for weaker restrictions in NSW. Their take-home message is:

So irrelevant nonsense then.

The Doherty modelling informed the current plan. Even Treasury supports lockdowns over whatever alternatives they considered. Is there any credible publicly available modelling supporting any alternatives for this interim period until vaccination levels are "high enough"? It's hard to take...

Hospital in the home was mentioned briefly in the press conference (at about the 25 min mark):

Really shows that it's the regions where the health officials are going to have to work the hardest, right around the country. EDIT: except maybe in Victoria where the regions are ahead of Melbourne.

Extended to 4pm Sunday, so an 8 day lockdown (for now). Yes scary, 10 cases today in the 0-9 age group (not sure if that includes the 2 overseas acquired cases). May be a lot more workers forced to stay home indirectly by closures of schools/childcares.

I find the QLD and NSW apps both consistently very fast and easy, maybe this is phone-dependent.

Nope haven't needed a referral for a long time now (at the public clinics at least).

Oh good, the ABC blog didn't include that bit.

Home isolation in NSW for 14 days since leaving Greater Brisbane? https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/public-health-orders.aspx#interstate https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/interstate-concerns-notice.pdf

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/companies/cyrus-sees-smaller-simpler-virgin-profitable-in-three-years-20200613-p5529b.html Cyrus aiming mid-market, with international and without Tiger.

We can post links, we can't post verbatim the contents of the linked pages (short quotes are ok).

Did anyone correctly predict the final two?