Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[lovetravellingoz]

Well the Mansfield Case identified today has one of the longer infectious in the community stints.

At 7.30am to 9.00 am was at the Sell Bonnie Doon Roadhouse every day from 9th to 20th August apart from the Thursday 19th August.





This case has evidently been linked to Shepparton. The 9th August date may mean it was an upstream infection.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Or you just don’t like the the answer to the question we’ve all been asking?

What question?

The modelling was based on a scenario that will not happen.

To me it is odd that they did not start with a range of case loads other than just the one of 30 cases.

Modelling a range of entry points would provide a more robust outcome.

Anyway it looks like they have now asked for more modelling.

The required vaccination rate is probably higher than what the UK now has as they have had so many who have already had Covid. So about 80%-ish will likely be about the rate if their adverse health rate is deemed to be acceptable for Australia.

Maybe because NSW got their first?

Got their first what?

 

[antycbr]

At 7.30am to 9.00 am was at the Shell Bonnie Doon Roadhouse every day from 9th to 20th August apart from the Thursday 19th August.

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How’s the serenity?

 

[lovetravellingoz]

How’s the serenity?

I am sure that they made sure that Covid was put in their pool room!

 

[antycbr]

I am sure that they made sure that Covid was put in their pool room!

I grew up in Alexandra which is quite close by so know the area really well. I describe my home town as the place where pilots go “We have commenced our descent into Melbourne”…

 

[justinbrett]

What question?

The modelling was based on a scenario that will not happen.

To me it is odd that they did not start with a range of case loads other than just the one of 30 cases.

Modelling a range of entry points would provide a more robust outcome.

Anyway it looks like they have now asked for more modelling.

The required vaccination rate is probably higher than what the UK now has as they have had so many who have already had Covid. So about 80%-ish will likely be about the rate if their adverse health rate is deemed to be acceptable for Australia.






Got their first what?

PM: “The advice we have from the Doherty institute is that the starting point does not ultimately alter the conclusions of the modelling”

 

[lovetravellingoz]

PM: “The advice we have from the Doherty institute is that the starting point does not ultimately alter the conclusions of the modelling”

Which goes to show that they have gone back and asked for more advice other than the question first asked back in June.

 

[antycbr]

Which goes to show that they have gone back and asked for more advice other than the question first asked back in June.

Watching McGowan on 7 news just now he looked very defensive. I think some people inside even WA are realising Covid zero is gone, or Bali is gone. Pick one.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I grew up in Alexandra which is quite close by so know the area really well. I describe my home town as the place where pilots go “We have commenced our descent into Melbourne”…

The exposures seems to be limited to breakfast time.

So given your local knowledge does that Roadhouse that do an amazing breakfast?

Though thee person could be working there, rather than eating there.

Post automatically merged: Aug 22, 2021

A case found in Wangarratta now.

Wangaratta is about an hours drive east of Shepparton. About 100km apart.

Wangaratta Mayor Dean Rees told The Border Mail a positive case had been detected in a person tested at the Wangaratta Hospital, but who is believed to be from Mansfield.​

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So this may or may not be the Mansfield case referred to to early. Most likely is though given both announcements were today.
If so maybe they had breakfast every day at the Roadhouse and then hit the road?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1429340804082982914

 

[trevella]

You should apply to be the federal CHO. You clearly know more than him.

Just because someone obviously knows more than you doesn’t make them a know-it-all.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

This is 4 hours old now, but Shepparton is now up to 23 cases.

I suspect that this may just be from rapid tests used on mainly very close contacts, and so the PCR's results that will be in tomorrow's count will most give a better handle on whether spread has gone much beyond the three families.

 

[jb747]

I've been a little surprised throughout this sad saga, that there haven't been recurrent cases right down the Hume Highway.

 

[nutwood]

I've been a little surprised throughout this sad saga, that there haven't been recurrent cases right down the Hume Highway.

It's interesting that Delta, the "game changer", doesn't appear to be anywhere near as nasty as "early Covid". At the start of last year, when we were quarantining people on Christmas island, it seemed Covid would be inescapable if it were to get loose. I was carrying sanitiser wipes and wiping down my hire cars, fully sanitising after fuel stops etc, etc. I still remember driving through Mildura and there were teams with spray bottles and wipes, diligently cleaning power poles in an industrial area.
Had Covid been as originally promoted, you'd have cases up and down every major highway. The fact that we don't shows that it's not that dissimilar in transmission to the common cold. You catch it directly from other people, potentially anywhere but principally inside, in crowded conditions. There's obviously exceptions but my experience of the Hume Highway is that it's a through route. People don't hang about and socialise.

 

[justinbrett]

Just because someone obviously knows more than you doesn’t make them a know-it-all.

I think the lesson is don't take your health advice from AFF members.

Listen to the health experts. The federal CHO was very confident with his advice today which contradicts said member.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Canberra are firing up. It's game time.

PM says rising case number is ‘inevitable’

OPINION

www.news.com.au

 

[antycbr]

Canberra are firing up. It's game time.

PM says rising case number is ‘inevitable’

OPINION

www.news.com.au

Yep. the Prime Minister has probably run the numbers and realised that this is the hill that he needs to die on. There’s more to be gained by pushing on and getting us opened, than to having people locked down and angry.

He also needed to fix supply and with 300k plus days happening he’s in a better position now that the shortages of vaccines aren’t holding things back. I reckon they’ve also got Pfizer to bring even more forward as demand slumps elsewhere.

 

[justinbrett]

Sky After Dark commentary tonight suggesting QLD and WA will deliberately slow down their state vaccine rollouts to stop them getting to 80% before the federal election, thus preventing the country opening.

I really hope this is not the case.

 

[antycbr]

Sky After Dark commentary tonight suggesting QLD and WA will deliberately slow down their state vaccine rollouts to stop them getting to 80% before the federal election, thus preventing the country opening.

I really hope this is not the case.

If that happened there’d be evidence of it that the Commonwealth would have. They can see all dose utilisation data.

Also the majority of doses nationally are being administered by the GP and pharmac_ channels which can be scaled up along with ADF teams for indigenous and hard to reach areas.

Incompetence, maybe. Conspiracy probably not.

 

[clarkkent]

Sky After Dark commentary

So irrelevant nonsense then.

 

[Must...Fly!]

It could be plausible if the WA government could be relied upon to make such a cunning decision.

In the obvious absence of that, yes, irrelevant nonsense.