Qantas ticket class visibility?

[PERLHR]

I'm sure this must have been discussed on lots of occasions but similar to trying to see a booking class for a ticket I see nothing on it here!

Why oh why don't Qantas show us the booking class before purchase? Seriously, it's not that hard and plenty of One World carriers do so ..in fact probably all!

I need to know as I want to credit a flight with BA without any surprises of nil points and nil status points!! Has anyone any suggestions? I just dont get why everything is so hard with Qantas!!

 

[levelnine]

'Simpler and fairer'

 

[PERLHR]

'Simpler and fairer'

Nothing is with Qantas!! ....ever ever.

 

[Mickey Mouse]

Nothing is with Qantas!! ....ever ever.

Noooooo!

I cannot agree with that!

Some things are very simple with Qantas!

 

[PERLHR]

'Simpler and fairer'

Noooooo!

I cannot agree with that!

Some things are very simple with Qantas!

Well true...it's all down to perspective of the rubbish they provide.

 

[PERLHR]

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What difference does that make on wanting to know the booking class of a ticket? Don't care what QF call it nor do I want anything from QF frequent flyer club or whatever they call it (surprised anyhow its not just linked to their bed buddies EK) as I want as stated , to credit a flight on QF metal to BA and gain POINTS and Tier Points on BA FF but alas QF dont even let any of their flyers know it appears what class of ticket they are buying it seems until they actually purchase the ticket.

 

[encryptededdy]

I need to know as I want to credit a flight with BA without any surprises of nil points and nil status points!! Has anyone any suggestions? I just dont get why everything is so hard with Qantas!!

If you actually need to know what fare class it is, I generally use ExpertFlyer or ITA Matrix and find the same flight, then match the base fare and check the fare class.

For instance, say I want to find the fare class of this one-way Business Flex fare from SYD to HND on the 8th of December.

I add it to the cart on the Qantas website, and see that the base fare is $6733

I then populate an ExpertFlyer fare search with the same information

and click search

In this case, we can see that the $6733 base fare is booking class "C" (and the saver fare is "D")

Alternatively, I put the same search into ITA Matrix and see the results

After selecting the correct flight (the top one), I can see that the $6733 fare is "C". Note that I can't pull up the Saver fare in ITA Matrix, which is why I check ExpertFlyer first.


Note that it can be harder for more complex itineraries, but thankfully I haven't had to check one of those (yet!)

 

[PERLHR]

If you actually need to know what fare class it is, I generally use ExpertFlyer or ITA Matrix and find the same flight, then match the base fare and check the fare class.

For instance, say I want to find the fare class of this one-way Business Flex fare from SYD to HND on the 8th of December.
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I add it to the cart on the Qantas website, and see that the base fare is $6733
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I then populate an ExpertFlyer fare search with the same information
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and click search
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In this case, we can see that the $6733 base fare is booking class "C" (and the saver fare is "D")

Alternatively, I put the same search into ITA Matrix and see the results
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After selecting the correct flight (the top one), I can see that the $6733 fare is "C". Note that I can't pull up the Saver fare in ITA Matrix, which is why I check ExpertFlyer first.
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Note that it can be harder for more complex itineraries, but thankfully I haven't had to check one of those (yet!)

Thanks for that.

 

[Franky]

If you actually need to know what fare class it is, I generally use ExpertFlyer or ITA Matrix and find the same flight, then match the base fare and check the fare class.

For instance, say I want to find the fare class of this one-way Business Flex fare from SYD to HND on the 8th of December.
View attachment 371771
I add it to the cart on the Qantas website, and see that the base fare is $6733
View attachment 371772
I then populate an ExpertFlyer fare search with the same information
View attachment 371773
and click search
View attachment 371774
In this case, we can see that the $6733 base fare is booking class "C" (and the saver fare is "D")

Alternatively, I put the same search into ITA Matrix and see the results
View attachment 371775
After selecting the correct flight (the top one), I can see that the $6733 fare is "C". Note that I can't pull up the Saver fare in ITA Matrix, which is why I check ExpertFlyer first.
View attachment 371776

Note that it can be harder for more complex itineraries, but thankfully I haven't had to check one of those (yet!)

Sure - but why do you need to go thru this process to find out something relatively simple??

 

[PERLHR]

Sure - but why do you need to go thru this process to find out something relatively simple??

Quite. indeed.

 

[andye]

I have previously worked it out by cross-referencing with Amex Travel website though wouldn't be as reliable as ITA. Malaysian are another culprit and some of their fare classes give no SCs on QF

 

[PERLHR]

I have previously worked it out by cross-referencing with Amex Travel website though wouldn't be as reliable as ITA. Malaysian are another culprit and some of their fare classes give no SCs on QF

I always see the ticket class on MH metal through the MH website before having to commit. ...likewise there are MH fares that don't credit to BA as there are QF fares that don't credit to BA.

As example ..
Itinerary details
Total duration: 5h 30min
Total duration: 5 hours and 30 minutes
5h 30m
02:25Perth
Perth (PER)
Terminal 1
07:55Kuala Lumpur
Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KUL)
Terminal 1
Flight duration 5 hours and 30 minutes
Flight number MH 126
Operated by Malaysia Airlines

AIRBUS A330-300Class V

 

[RichardMEL]

The premium cabins are usually fairly easy to know and work back to the FF earn categories. Eg First F, First "saver" or Sale are usually A, Business Flex J/C, discount D, Sale I, and so in.

What can get problematic with QF is that "Flex" fares can boko into Y B M H ir K in general, and carious levels if discount most of the rest, and it's harder to tell.

I like the idea above of EF fare search (which I do) noting the EF displayed fares are generally ex tax. ITA matrix is another good idea.

Using some OTAs can also yield booking class info, eg Expedia for example:

 

[dylarr]

It's annoying because the Qantas website actually does return the fare class / RBD's in the background along with the pricing data when searching for flights which is sent through to your browser in the API response, however it's not displayed in the UI. So it wouldn't be hard for Qantas to actually add it — most of the hard work has been done already. They just choose not to.

 

[serfty]

It's an old old issue. See this 7 year old post for a response from Qantas:

FWIW, I've heard that the reason Qantas does not show the booking class on its website is not because it doesn't want passengers to know it - but because it thinks passengers are not interested and that it might unnecessarily confuse them.

If you think this is incorrect (as I do), you may wish to get in touch with QF and explain why you are interested in seeing the booking class prior to making a booking...

I once had a script that would interpret the underlying HTML and pull out the Fare bucket, but Qantas enhanced that away.

 

[RichardMEL]

Of course that supposed reasoning from QF is BS in my view. At the very least, punters would be interested in, as QF deem it, the Ff Earn Category, of a fare that applies. Now while it is true that the general headings align somewhat Eg Red-E-Deal, Flex, Business - it's not the full story as we all know.

It's part of QF chosing to not be transparent. I see no reason why they shouldn't be.

If they were serious with the "Passengers aren't interested" spin then why bother to show the aircraft type, or alleged services offered? It's just a tube in the sky with seats right?

And of course, all they need do is just have a "flight detail" option or view that would give the booking class. Those not interested need not view.

It's spin to cover a business decision that is not in the customer's best interest.

 

[serfty]

It's annoying because the Qantas website actually does return the fare class / RBD's in the background along with the pricing data when searching for flights which is sent through to your browser in the API response, however it's not displayed in the UI. So it wouldn't be hard for Qantas to actually add it — most of the hard work has been done already. They just choose not to.

Actually, when I was trying to resurrect the script, I tried to capture that - however in the source areas where it was found there was a destructor function. In the end other activities took my attention and I have not got back to it.

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[PERLHR]

I just find it frustrating for something that really I should have at my finger tips to inform me of my earnings. Anyway I decided I'm just not flying Qantas on the route and have decided to credit the sectors to VA and fly Virgin.

 

[tdimdad]

FWIW, I've heard that the reason Qantas does not show the booking class on its website is not because it doesn't want passengers to know it - but because it thinks passengers are not interested and that it might unnecessarily confuse them.

Yet, many of their partners manage to show it without any confusion. AY, BA, CX, JL, etc all have the booking class available behind a 'Flight details, 'Show details' or similar link (except for AY in this sample which shows it outright on the right-hand panel when using the website). There's nothing confusing even to a first-time customer when it's done neatly. I quite like the way BA and CX do it because the data point is placed and labeled clearly.

 

[p--and--t]

It's annoying because the Qantas website actually does return the fare class / RBD's in the background along with the pricing data when searching for flights which is sent through to your browser in the API response, however it's not displayed in the UI. So it wouldn't be hard for Qantas to actually add it — most of the hard work has been done already. They just choose not to.

If you weren't a member of AFF, would you even know there were sub classes beyond first business premium and economy.

I know from many conversations that none of my group of occasional flyer friends bar one was aware they even exist.

Most of them do not understand nor have any interest in those funny things that appear called status credits. They just watch points accumulate hopefully for their next "free" flight in the future.