$1500 Rtn in F on EY CMB-DFW

[markis10]

Re: Cmb - dfw ey f ~$1700aud

Booked 3 return CMB-AUH-JFK-DFW-JFK-AUH-CMB... All EY guest accounts linked to my EY Businessconnect account.. Should haul in ~ 250,000 EY miles all together. Fingers crossed it all works well. Will have to ensure all boarding passes are safe at the end!

Given those miles convert at 20000 to AUD$150 or so under points pay that's pretty much one fare back!

 

[Oxy]

Re: Cmb - dfw ey f ~$1700aud

Managed to book one in August, planning to credit to VA. What's the best way to get the domestic leg on AA credited separately as i believe it won't earn with VA? I have 7 hours in JFK, do I get the FF number updated there?

 

[serfty]

You can assign FF numbers to individual segments but that is fraught with peril as not many agents can do it properly.

 

[hummel]

Re: Cmb - dfw ey f ~$1700aud

Your fare share???

Perhaps

 

[jneufeld]

Re: Cmb - dfw ey f ~$1700aud

Had this priced on but couldn't get the dates to work for me, so didn't buy. Was looking at dropping the JFK-DFW leg on a OW trip, out of interest what would that have meant for points earn? Would I get nothing because I missed the final leg, or could you retro claim the legs taken if you deliberately withheld your VA FF number.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Re: Cmb - dfw ey f ~$1700aud

Had this priced on but couldn't get the dates to work for me, so didn't buy. Was looking at dropping the JFK-DFW leg on a OW trip, out of interest what would that have meant for points earn? Would I get nothing because I missed the final leg, or could you retro claim the legs taken if you deliberately withheld your VA FF number.

you would get points for actual sectors flown. if you missed a sector, no points for that sector.

 

[moa999]

Other thing is that a lot of the available flights were only Business Class (admittedly no difference on VA SC earn) and others were AA codeshares (for Euro stops) (which I suspect don't earn although YMMV)

 

[zainman]

Re: Cmb - dfw ey f ~$1700aud

Given those miles convert at 20000 to AUD$150 or so under points pay that's pretty much one fare back!

calculating value using their Points + Pay system?

 

[markis10]

Re: Cmb - dfw ey f ~$1700aud

calculating value using their Points + Pay system?

no, no! you can cash out points from EY into a virtual Visa card, I was using mine to calculate the value where 20000 points gave me $155 on the card.

 

[zainman]

Re: Cmb - dfw ey f ~$1700aud

no, no! you can cash out points from EY into a virtual Visa card, I was using mine to calculate the value where 20000 points gave me $155 on the card.

haha yes, that is exactly what I meant when I said Points + pay. Mobile wallet for e-payment with points and miles - PointsPay

 

[markis10]

Re: Cmb - dfw ey f ~$1700aud

haha yes, that is exactly what I meant when I said Points + pay. Mobile wallet for e-payment with points and miles - PointsPay

No worries, I though you might have been talking about the value in a points plus pay flight redemption.

 

[k_sheep]

Re: Cmb - dfw ey f ~$1700aud

I snagged a couple of these for the Mr and I. Given Sri Lanka has been on our "to visit asap" list for a while, this will work well.

Hopefully they stick!

Not sure who I'll credit to - I don't fly VA so will have to play around and see if anywhere else might work better.

 

[zainman]

Re: Cmb - dfw ey f ~$1700aud

I snagged a couple of these for the Mr and I. Given Sri Lanka has been on our "to visit asap" list for a while, this will work well.

Hopefully they stick!

Not sure who I'll credit to - I don't fly VA so will have to play around and see if anywhere else might work better.

You can be an employee of my "company" if you like meaning we both earn miles

Anyway, need some expert advice here. Apparently the EY 103/100 service that most of the people have been booked into is the 2nd daily AUH-JFK service operated by EY but it will be flown on a 9W 77W. This means a poor F product! Can anyone interpret the fare rules here and check if a voluntary change will be permitted (assuming the fare gets honoured) to change to the EY metal operated AUH-JFK Flight? Fare rules here: FRTLK Fare Rules (RT)

Also, FAA has downgraded India to a Category 2 and some members on airliners.net suggest that this alone is enough to not allow EY to use 9W metal on its 2nd daily AUH-JFK flight. markis10/serfty/anyone got any know how into FAA rules?

 

[defurax]

So latest news on FT indicate that EY will honour the tickets (w/o limo, changes, miles and lounge access). I won't complain for $1600!
Now just have to wait for UL to become OW member and get some MH/UL positioning flights with my QF points...

 

[defurax]

Thanks again to the OP for posting this deal here, I had a great trip!
A few shots of the suite:






A loo with a view...and plenty of room to change into the very comfortable EY F pajama!

 

[boomy]

What an amazing deal!
We need more threads like this one on AFF!

 

[MEL_Traveller]

What an amazing deal!
We need more threads like this one on AFF!

the fare was not without some difficulties, particularly EY wanting to restrict benefits such as limo transfers and lounge access to pax on these fares. Complaints to the US DOT rectified some of these issues, but changes to the return date of these tickets (permitted under the fare rules) have almost always been denied.

There were also schedule changes (in some cases falling bellow minimum connecting time), 'downgrades' to equipment operated by 9W aircraft rather than EY metal, and downgrades of US domestic connections to coach (subsequently reinstated). Tickets were also locked, and getting 'oktofly' status often involved a lengthy wait at CMB airport.

Getting a refund has also been problematic for most passengers (with multiple and lengthy calls to both EY and/or the on-line trabel agency who issued the tickets). In some cases the ability to refund has still not been resolved.

It was a good fare, but not without significant effort, in most cases, to make it work.

 

[defurax]

the fare was not without some difficulties, particularly EY wanting to restrict benefits such as limo transfers and lounge access to pax on these fares. Complaints to the US DOT rectified some of these issues, but changes to the return date of these tickets (permitted under the fare rules) have almost always been denied.

There were also schedule changes (in some cases falling bellow minimum connecting time), 'downgrades' to equipment operated by 9W aircraft rather than EY metal, and downgrades of US domestic connections to coach (subsequently reinstated). Tickets were also locked, and getting 'oktofly' status often involved a lengthy wait at CMB airport.

Getting a refund has also been problematic for most passengers (with multiple and lengthy calls to both EY and/or the on-line trabel agency who issued the tickets). In some cases the ability to refund has still not been resolved.

It was a good fare, but not without significant effort, in most cases, to make it work.

The most surprising thing for me was that the DOT agreed that itinerary changes after flying the first segment could be re-priced. This seems to contradict the published fare rules and shows the Kafkaesque complexity of airline fare rules and exceptions.
On the other hand, I was also surprised at how many people booked this mistake fare without anticipating some resistance from EY.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

The most surprising thing for me was that the DOT agreed that itinerary changes after flying the first segment could be re-priced. This seems to contradict the published fare rules and shows the Kafkaesque complexity of airline fare rules and exceptions.
On the other hand, I was also surprised at how many people booked this mistake fare without anticipating some resistance from EY.

Many assume the DOT rules are inflexible, and will always side with the passenger. We have seen the DOT move away from this (albeit only recently) and are now starting to consider the impact of mistake fares and perhaps exercise some discretion before making decisions. I think that is a fair outcome when some pax are booking say 10 seats at a $150 first class fare and then expecting total protection.

 

[boomy]

the fare was not without some difficulties, particularly EY wanting to restrict benefits such as limo transfers and lounge access to pax on these fares. Complaints to the US DOT rectified some of these issues, but changes to the return date of these tickets (permitted under the fare rules) have almost always been denied.

There were also schedule changes (in some cases falling bellow minimum connecting time), 'downgrades' to equipment operated by 9W aircraft rather than EY metal, and downgrades of US domestic connections to coach (subsequently reinstated). Tickets were also locked, and getting 'oktofly' status often involved a lengthy wait at CMB airport.

Getting a refund has also been problematic for most passengers (with multiple and lengthy calls to both EY and/or the on-line trabel agency who issued the tickets). In some cases the ability to refund has still not been resolved.

It was a good fare, but not without significant effort, in most cases, to make it work.

Even if we take into account the (almost) worse case scenario of no limo, no lounge access and no changes/cancellations permitted, it's still a great offer. I guess it's only fair to expect sweating a bit for such a good fare. I would probably be most worried to be refused boarding at the last minute or something like that, but would still take the chance if I had the time to do such a trip.