2013 Centurion Benefits

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Thanks for the info. I hadn't received the promo information. I had to call to ask for it and had not yet seen the T&C. After I saw your post, I called and booked a night in HKG. Upgraded to Grand Deluxe Harbour View, at a cost. Deal includes breakfast, midday check-in, 1600 check out, high tea plus return transfers. I have requested a Rolls Phantom, for the arrival transfer. I guess it's about a $1375.00, especially since it's a holiday week in Hong Kong. Even calculated as a replacement for a night at W, which I had booked at 5300+, and 2 transfers, it's at least $900.00 saving. 2 of these a year puts the Cent card in the black, for me.

Once again, thanks for the heads up. Maybe you should be my Cent concierge?

Lol - that's what we pay them for though!

They didn't mention high tea to me - they mentioned transfers, late check out, early check in, breakfast, and said there was one additional amenity which I would be advised of on check in - maybe high tea is it and they're normally not supposed to advise? If you don't mind me asking, what was the rate to upgrade the room - I didn't even think about doing that (even though the brochure does mention it) but that might be an idea.
 
Lol - that's what we pay them for though!
I agree, and I expressed my disappointment to them that I found out about this and the $100 Hertz voucher in an online forum, rather than from my RM or the magazine.

They didn't mention high tea to me - they mentioned transfers, late check out, early check in, breakfast, and said there was one additional amenity which I would be advised of on check in - maybe high tea is it and they're normally not supposed to advise? If you don't mind me asking, what was the rate to upgrade the room - I didn't even think about doing that (even though the brochure does mention it) but that might be an idea.
They didn't mention the high tea to me, either. I always ask about each inclusion separately and ask them to send me the details so I don't have to get upset and argue during the stay.

The ad also mentions an upgrade at time of res, but the consultant said this was wrong. In any case, I couldn't see the point of staying at this iconic hotel without a harbour view - we want to enjoy the Symphony of Light from our room. The upgrade cost to a grand deluxe harbour view was HKD2400 + tax. Amex's rate is 4580 for the room they're giving away and 6980 for the harbour view, so it's about AUD300 for the difference. Don't forget to request a Rolls for the transfer. I believe they prioritise them to pre-requests and when they run out, they use different vehicles. I cheekily plan to use the outbound transfer to take us to the W Hong Kong.
 
I agree, and I expressed my disappointment to them that I found out about this and the $100 Hertz voucher in an online forum, rather than from my RM or the magazine.


They didn't mention the high tea to me, either. I always ask about each inclusion separately and ask them to send me the details so I don't have to get upset and argue during the stay.

The ad also mentions an upgrade at time of res, but the consultant said this was wrong. In any case, I couldn't see the point of staying at this iconic hotel without a harbour view - we want to enjoy the Symphony of Light from our room. The upgrade cost to a grand deluxe harbour view was HKD2400 + tax. Amex's rate is 4580 for the room they're giving away and 6980 for the harbour view, so it's about AUD300 for the difference. Don't forget to request a Rolls for the transfer. I believe they prioritise them to pre-requests and when they run out, they use different vehicles. I cheekily plan to use the outbound transfer to take us to the W Hong Kong.

Good to know - will get back to the agent and get them to put the request in! And definitely agree a harbour view is important!
 
I think what spamalert is saying is right to some degree. The concierge service is mostly useless when it comes to anything that is non-standard, and there is lots of discussion about this in the different forums. I was also quite frustrated when all my non-standard requests and even some standard requests were unsuccessful. As such I agree that the advertising of their service borders to false advertising. The advertised stories are probably true, but they must be very rare and exceptional cases and disappointment is almost guaranteed when expectations are raised to such a level.

If this complaint leads to an improvement of the concierge service, or to a reduced annual fee to make up for lack of excellent service, then I am all in favour of it. But I doubt that it will change anything.

I agree with spamalert. I have been a Centurion member since 2006 and have never found their concierge/lifestyle services competent except for the most trivial of tasks. Taken from a previous thread on the subject, here are my two Centurion concierge stories.

1) I wanted to get a friend a particular Hermes wallet that was no longer made for his 35th birthday. I sent the Centurion Lifestyles team an email and explained that Hermes had stopped making the wallet several years ago and that I had seen it offered on ebay recently but the colour in the ebay listing was not what I wanted. I included the pictures (and listing) from ebay so they could see the exact model and style I was after. Several days later I received an email saying. "We have tried contacting several stores and they unfortunately do not sell the orange wallet any longer. However, I have found this particular Hermes wallet on ebay which is almost similiar (sic)."

Since the wallet the Lifestyles team referred me to wasn't anywhere near similar to what I was seeking, I wrote back stating that I was disappointed in their lack-lustre efforts to procure it for me and that I found it particularly ironic that they had referred me back to the source that I had originally referred them to (ebay) with a suggestion that I purchase something that in no way resembled what I was seeking. I asked them to please try again and suggested that perhaps calling the manufacturer (Hermes Paris) might be a good starting point. About a week later, I was told that the both the Sydney and Paris Hermes stores had told them that the wallet was no longer made and that this wallet was no longer sold by Hermes in Australia or France and that they were sorry they couldn't help me.

After receiving this email, I called the Hermes Paris store myself, explained what I was looking for (by providing the model number from the original ebay listing I had supplied the Centurion Lifestyles team) and the very helpful Hermes representative referred me to a Parisian boutique that specialised in vintage Hermes items. I called the boutique. They had the exact wallet I was after and sent it to me that same day. (Although the boutique accepted Amex, I paid for it with my Visa card.)

2) While travelling in France, I left my iPhone in a taxi and despite repeated attempts to track it down, it was never returned. Since I was traveling for several more weeks, I needed the iPhone replaced quickly. At the time, unlocked iPhones were not available in France.

I called the Centurion Lifestyles team, explained what had happened and asked them to purchase a new, replacement iPhone from the Apple store in Australia and express courier it to my hotel (I thought that this was a relatively simple and straight-forward request--tailor-made for what a Centurion concierge could do). The next day I received an email from the Centurion Lifestyles team stating that Apple Australia did not ship their products outside of Australia and that even if they did, it was illegal to send mobile phones by courier since they contained lithium batteries and that mobile phone batteries were not allowed on airplanes.

I didn't even reply to the email. I just asked a friend to go to the Apple store in Sydney, buy the phone and send it to me via DHL. I received the phone two days later.

After these, and several other similar experiences with the Centurion Lifestyles team, I no longer use them. I agree with spamalert and believe that the Amex Centurion marketing literature creates entirely unreal expectations of what they can and are willing to do for their Centurion card members and borders on fraud.

Just want to say, I had some very good service from Concierge lately. I really think it is who you get sometimes, and some are better than others. The consultant got me my set of impossible to get wheels last year and even have solution for me ready to go as they don't accept amex. I have stucked with her since and was never disappointed. She recently is on vacation and she was following up with something for me, and the person who is taking over the case was just as good.

On the other hand, travel was hopeless. I asked three questions and only one was answered. However, I asked for a quote for the executive suite, and she gave me a quote on three different other rooms but the one I am after. I rang my relationship manager, and had a big rant on the phone to the consultant who took over. Looks like I might have landed a good one this time, as she sorted everything out for me on the phone yesterday. Give me tips on a few things and her client's feedback on various properties.

At the end, I think it is who you get, and if you haven't got a good one, just keep ringing till you landed a good one.
 
Great to hear a positive experience. I too have had mixed experiences from concierge service and now stick to 2-3 consultants who help my requests from time to time who I find provide excellent service. What I would like to see is the establishment of a Centurion only concierge service. My understanding is that it's currently a shared service with Platinum members. For the fee we pay, I don't think it's too much to ask for.
 
I couldn't see the point of staying at this iconic hotel without a harbour view...

Can't agree more. We stayed at Peninsula HK last month and managed to arrive at our room 15 mins before Symphony of Light started. Rolls Royce transfer was nice but the ride was too short :p

This is the view from our room:
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That's good to hear, thinking of doing a RTW with the family on AsiaMiles oneworld multi city award so that status hopefully would proof to be useful.
 
Until this week, the only benefit I had received from the CX Marco Polo Diamond, was to be able to select seats on QF J redemptions.

This week, I decided to redeem CX J SYD-HKG-KIX. Transferred the points from MR to CX and called CX to make a res.

The flights I wanted showed unavailable to redeem and not available for waitlisting, when checking online. On calling, the rep checked and asked me to hold while she tried to waitlist the flights for me. Within 3 mins, she was back and had already confirmed the flights, giving me a few days to issue tickets.

Excellent service and a huge benefit. I certainly hope they continue this benefit. I usually prefer to redeem F, but if CX J is OK for SYD-HKG, the Diamond status makes life a lot easier.
 
Yes it was an email from my RM and I'll PM you the relevant section. The query was specifically related to CX Diamond renewal. And of course, I always believe everything Amex tells me ;)
 
Yes it was an email from my RM and I'll PM you the relevant section. The query was specifically related to CX Diamond renewal. And of course, I always believe everything Amex tells me ;)

I was also told by Amex it will renew. Online it already shows as being renewed, the new expiry date is in 2014. But I have not yet received a new card. I will be travelling soon and would like to get access to the lounges. When are new cards usually posted?
 
I was also told by Amex it will renew. Online it already shows as being renewed, the new expiry date is in 2014. But I have not yet received a new card. I will be travelling soon and would like to get access to the lounges. When are new cards usually posted?

My expiry date is May 31 and I think I got my renewal card last year in late May. You can take a printed copy of your Marco Polo profile page with you when you travel and most lounge dragons will be sympathetic to your plight.

My renewal doesn't show up online yet though...
 
Until this week, the only benefit I had received from the CX Marco Polo Diamond, was to be able to select seats on QF J redemptions.

This week, I decided to redeem CX J SYD-HKG-KIX. Transferred the points from MR to CX and called CX to make a res.

The flights I wanted showed unavailable to redeem and not available for waitlisting, when checking online. On calling, the rep checked and asked me to hold while she tried to waitlist the flights for me. Within 3 mins, she was back and had already confirmed the flights, giving me a few days to issue tickets.

Excellent service and a huge benefit. I certainly hope they continue this benefit. I usually prefer to redeem F, but if CX J is OK for SYD-HKG, the Diamond status makes life a lot easier.

Handy to know for future ref, thanks for sharing.

I was looking at CX for Hong Kong 7's for next year, they normally have a package deal, hopfully Amex will keep the CX stauts ongoing for Plat and Cent card members.
 
I have been told specifically by RM that Amex was unable to procure Marco Polo complimentary Diamond for this year. My membership expires June 2013
 
I have been told specifically by RM that Amex was unable to procure Marco Polo complimentary Diamond for this year. My membership expires June 2013

My membership renewed for the first time March this year. Held since Feb 2012. Expiry now end of Feb 2014.
 
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