2024 F1 Thread

[JessicaTam]

I think I just saw @JessicaTam in the grandstand while they were doing the national anthem.

I was all Papaya!

 

[serfty]

I’m trying to work out what VCARB’s strategy was for him? I mean… they ran him on hards for 49 laps What on earth were they trying to achieve there with leaving him in complete no man’s land??

I guess for $34m or whatever, Daniel does not need to worry what happens as long as they comply with team instruction.

 

[JessicaTam]

No commentary that I could hear. Why did Carlos turn in?

 

[DejaBrew]

No commentary that I could hear. Why did Carlos turn in?

On board, it wasn’t clear that he did. If anything, looks like they both angled fractionally toward each other simultaneously. It’s being investigated post race (so watch this space), but it was far from clear who would be at fault watching the replays. Won’t be surprised if it gets called a racing incident, but who knows?

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I guess for $34m or whatever, Daniel does not need to worry what happens as long as they comply with team instruction.

Maybe, but I don’t think he wants to do it just for the sake of driving in circles.

 

[DejaBrew]

Ooh… HUL and VER both being investigated post race for VSC infringements.

 

[moa999]

Certainly doesn't help Carlos's standing with RBR, particularly with McLaren now taking the lead in the WCC.

 

[JessicaTam]

On board, it wasn’t clear that he did. If anything, looks like they both angled fractionally toward each other simultaneously. It’s being investigated post race (so watch this space), but it was far from clear who would be at fault watching the replays. Won’t be surprised if it gets called a racing incident, but who knows?

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Maybe, but I don’t think he wants to do it just for the sake of driving in circles.

Thanks.

 

[DejaBrew]

Ooh… HUL and VER both being investigated post race for VSC infringements.

It gets more interesting... McLaren Pit Lane infringement also being investigated post race.

 

[moa999]

"they haven't been great friends this weekend"
Lol. Oscar on the crash.

 

[DejaBrew]

It gets more interesting... McLaren Pit Lane infringement also being investigated post race.

And now OCO and GAS are both also under investigation for a VSC infringement. At this rate, the race results aren't going to be known until next week!

 

[Brissy1]

What a race. McLaren can't give Piastri the rough end of the pawpaw now!

 

[JessicaTam]

Just spotted this left behind in the stands.

 

[kelvedon]

What a race. McLaren can't give Piastri the rough end of the pawpaw now!

I don’t think this result will change the order. PIA is still 33 points behind NOR….. but a similar finish will in SIN might change things.

 

[Sprucegoose]

Just spotted this left behind in the stands.

Is that Lando Norris?

 

[DejaBrew]

@JessicaTam - Re: PER/SAI crash...

Karun just did his analysis on the Sky Pad and the long story short, is SAI got a poor exit out of Turn 2 and was hard up against the wall. He began to edge away from the wall - nothing reckless/aggressive - but PER largely maintained his line and they ultimately collided. So in Karun's opinion, SAI will need to take more of the blame for it. But even then, Karun wasn't totally confident how it would go with the stewards?

 

[SeatBackForward]

@JessicaTam - Re: PER/SAI crash...

Karun just did his analysis on the Sky Pad and the long story short, is SAI got a poor exit out of Turn 2 and was hard up against the wall. He began to edge away from the wall - nothing reckless/aggressive - but PER largely maintained his line and they ultimately collided. So in Karun's opinion, SAI will need to take more of the blame for it. But even then, Karun wasn't totally confident how it would go with the stewards?

Watching it live, I honestly thought SAI just turned left into him, not really sure why he couldn't have maintained a straight line for further. But then the replays and on-boards didn't make it seem as dramatic a swerve at all.

 

[moa999]

Full stewards report:

"The Stewards heard from the driver of Car 11 (Sergio Perez), the driver of Car 55 (Carlos Sainz), team representatives and reviewed positioning/marshalling system data, video, and in-car video evidence.

"Sainz and Perez made contact and crashed shortly after Turn 2 on lap 50. This is a situation where a small touch had significant consequences. The Stewards reviewed how the incident occurred, not the consequence.

"Sainz passed Perez after turn 1 and was completely ahead at the apex of turn 2. With a compromised exit by Sainz, Perez pulled to the inside of Sainz. Sainz reported that he was aware of Perez to his inside.

"Perez, being slightly behind, was in a better position to see the relative location of the cars. But as the two cars approached the wall on the right at the exit of Turn 2, they were about 1m apart. From this point and throughout the incident, neither driver steered erratically, and indeed both kept their steering very neutral.

"The Stewards checked the driving line of the drivers on pervious laps. Sainz was on or close to his normal racing line, which forms a slight angle away from the right hand wall. From the exit to the point of contact he move approximately one car width further away from the wall.

"Perez moved approximately half a car width further away from the same wall, being more parallel to the right hand wall. It was thus apparent that while ahead, and having the right to drive his line, Sainz did move slightly towards a car that he had limited vision of.

"At the same time, there was nothing unusual about Perez’ line, but he could have done more to avoid the car that he had better view of. In conclusion, the Stewards deem this to be a racing incident with neither driver being predominantly at fault, and take no further action."

 

[JessicaTam]

Sounds fair. The slight touch of SAI RL wheel to PER FR wheel was enough to spin him into PER.

 

[cjd600]

What a tense race, great job Oscar, the overtake, then managing the pressure - great race to watch now there is competition.
Wish they were all such a civilised Sunday evening start time!

 

[DejaBrew]

Watching it live, I honestly thought SAI just turned left into him, not really sure why he couldn't have maintained a straight line for further. But then the replays and on-boards didn't make it seem as dramatic a swerve at all.

SAI's onboard showed he barely moved the wheel, but for that matter, neither did PER. I suggested "racing incident" at the time and to be honest, I'm pleased the stewards took a commonsense approach.